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Author, documentary filmmaker, historian, Speaker of the House (1995-1999), and 2012 Republican presidential candidate
Fmr. Obama Deputy Campaign Mgr. and W.H. Sr. Adviser, founder of Precision Strategies, fmr. Sr. Adviser to Maj. Leader Reid and Sen. Kennedy
Conservative columnist for New York Daily News, contributing editor at Townhall Magazine, commentator and author
Former Special Adviser for Green Jobs under President Obama, co-founder of Rebuild the Dream, author and attorney
Putin the KGB veteran, a Stalinophile, solidified power putting Lebed down in a helicopter in 2003, takes out critical journalists, puts troops in to back his puppet ruler in Ukraine–recall Duranty's Pulitzer won by airbrushing out Stalin's murder of millions of Ukrainians. The pathetic display of Kerry and Obama on the heels of Hillary's embarrassing "Re-Set" indicates DC has not clue one. Putin will protect pipelines and a port. What will Obama and Kerry protect. Their privilege, private planes, multicourse dinners, Secret Service protection. We will witness an ever shrinking island of credibility as the light of the world dims. JFK would be out front with an ideal.
Fighting against Obama is like fighting Hitler & the Brownshirts- DEMOCRATIC loyalty runs deep and is more important than honesty or decency or even America- when the DEMOCRATs vote they vote in a solid block- you mean not even one DEMOCRAT wants to stop this mindless Obama spending spree? that is evidence in itself that someone behind the scenes is controlling them- the rich powerful people who installed Obama & hid his past (criminal) history at the cost of millions also control the press so as to print (or not print) what is best for them and not for America- we are the second biggest oil producing country in the world- there is no excuse for gas to be priced at 3.50/gal-
Your statements are completely false.
The democrats are less likely to vote in a block then the GOP.
The biggest most easily show example... Obamacare. EVERY GOP house member was against it. But not every Democratic member was for it. 34 democrats voted against Obamacare (and oddly enough, most of them were kicked out by the voters after doing so).
Democrats are much more likely to not vote as a block. Look at things like Syrian sanctions and even look at the farm bill. Democrats voting against their party leadership positions.
What likely confuses you is the fact that the democrats who oppose bills tend to be willing to negotiate with the other democrats to get some of what they want included in order to support a bill. This is what happened with Ben Nelson and Marie Landrieu with Obamacare. They got some changes to the bill in order to support it. Most GOP people who oppose bills just say 'NO' and refuse to negotiate. This is why the GOP had to pass a debt ceiling increase with mostly democrats supporting it in the house... because their opposition in their party was completely unwilling to negotiate toward anything that had any chance in the Senate.
Don't confuse disagreement (which the democrats have) with blind obstructionism (which the GOP has).
Living proof you cant fix stupid
I am going to choose to ignore your conspiracy theory stuff.
But... on the topic of gas prices at 3.50....
In 1980, gas prices were 1.25. Using the CPI cost of living index that would be the same as... 3.55 today.
Even in the lower price periods of the 60's and 70's, inflation adjusted gas prices are around 2.50. Gas was dirt cheap in the late 90's... because OPEC wasn't cooperating with each other and they were flooding the market. Expecting that as the "normal" is foolish. We were just very lucky at that point in time.
It could be just possible not all the citizens agree with the Liberal Agenda. Some of us still believe in the Constitution and Limited Government. Believe it or not, somebody has to do all the work to keep the country running. When you go to the Grocery Store to shop somebody had to do everything to get that product on the Shelves, It didn't just happen by magic or some great law. And believe it or not, the majority of people in the country can take care of themselves, or used to. Now I'm beginning to wonder if anybody remembers how to do anything any more without their Nanny.
God bless America!
Yes, they are. And the darlings will pay a huge prize at the polls.
Disappointed? That's like asking Robert E. Lee if he liked how the Civil War turned out! Not reaching across the aisle to Republicans – about anything – has been the biggest "kernel stuck in the Governors's throats" for the last 5-years (and counting). Not being given the respect of giving input and ideas, has gotten the country into the mess, particularly with respect to the ACA, to mention a few things, of late. Now with cutbacks proposed by the DOD in National Guard and Reserve/Active Duty personnel, weapons systems and support/bases/personnel, etc.,etc., the financial impact upon state government is again under siege by the Fed. Government. Just another "unfunded" mandate levied by the Feds upon those whom can afford it least.
I noticed how someone commented on people having a polite discussion on Crossfire. Then someone shows up in the comments section with a wild conspiracy theory.
A President is supposed to be a leader. That's what Obama passed his self off as. Any President worth his salt would be working with the congress .Obama has been, still is absent. President Reagan worked with the Congress. Obama hasn't been able to.
Trying to "be a leader" was the biggest mistake Obama made.
When he came in, he put his hand forward and tried to work with the GOP. He thought they'd be reasonable adults and be willing to compromise and work with him to advance the country.
Instead, they saw this as a sign of weakness and came up with their policy (which has been in place now for five years) of not negotiating or compromising or finding any middle ground unless absolutely forced to do so. Obama waited way too long to abandon the compromise approach and move on to exercising public leverage and political power to accomplish his goals.
Rahm Emmanuel quit because Obama wasn't willing to use his leverage in the first term, instead trying to work with a GOP that had no interest in working with him. He tried to be a leader to a group that was unwilling to be led. That simply cannot be done, no matter how good you are.
At a certain point, a leader has to recognize that the people he's trying to lead are unwilling to budge. No amount of leadership works at that point... you have to get out and push. Obama took way to long to get to that point... but it's good that he's there now.
LBJ didn't lead anyone. He twisted arms, blackmailed and used dirty tricks to get stuff done. And he got meaningful things accomplished in that way.
Now let's look at Obama. Let's say he manages to get immigration reform passed (which is still possible). You'll have a president who managed to get major healthcare reform passed, major immigration reform passed, wall street reform passed, economic stimulus passed and DADT repeal passed. In terms of major legislative accomplishments for a president, that would actually rank pretty high up there... despite the GOP working hard to stop him.
Of course the biggest thing he's accomplished is by standing up to the GOP hostage demands on the debt ceiling, he's eliminated that as a political maneuver. You can no longer use the threat of us defaulting on our debt to get your way in congress... and that is one of the most important things Obama could have done.
The biggest mistake Obama made was running for President. But Fools rush in where Angels fear to tread. Not sure if anyone knows how Obama got into Harvard or what his grades were but no one is bragging about them. Some black people in Chicago invited Obama to reign. But it takes some intelligence to see the error of you ways. Obama was behind the door when the Brains were passed out.
Obama graduated from Harvard magna cum laude. So while we dont' know exactly what his grades were, we do know he was int he top 20% of his graduating class but not in the top 10% (which would be summa cum laude).
Really, it's silly to attack Obama on the brains thing... at least from an academic accomplishment side. While he's not Clinton when it comes to academic achievement (Rhodes Scholar), he's pretty far up the list in terms of academic achievement among US presidents.
As for the racially toned "invited to reign" comments... Obama was elected by the voters of his district to the state senate, then by the voters of his state to the US senate, then the voters of the country to the presidency. Some of those voting were black, some were white and some were other races... but this is how our country chooses it's political leaders. The argument can be made that anyone who wants to be president is crazy and made a mistake... but the people of this country saw fit to choose him over the alternative twice. Insinuating that "some black guys" chose him and forced him in is insulting in that you're trying to belittle his election by claiming it was just blacks that got him in, and insulting to the nation as a whole by suggesting that somehow were were fooled by some small group who chose him.
Obama has lite the fuse for more racial, racial, racial problems...... than anyone in history. It's what he does to stir up trouble. There has never been a worse president, ever! How does he get away with over passing congress and makes his own rules? I mean who the hell does he think he is? Hitler?
The N.C gov Pat is not telling you is that his statement "We are paying the Federal Goverment back" means small buisness have gotten their bill from the state of North Carolina for the unemployment paid to their own unemployed workers.Which also means they cannot lay ANYONE else off until they pay that bill.Think about that on a small scale.10 people layed off 400.00 a week times 3 years Thats ROUGHLY 14,000.00 per person These companies are to pay this back then they could lay people off again.That's right , if a small shop had 10 peaple layed off for 3 years Thats @400.00 per week =104,000.00.
Just wait till they knock on your door and take your rights away.........too late!.
I enjoy watching crossfire. Regardless of my personal views it is refreshing to see intelligent people debate differing opinions on issues in a respectful , friendly and professional manner. It demonstrates the first step in working together to get something done. I hope members if Washington tune in and learn.
Crossfire = Mean girls only worst because it's grow men! Made me sick to my stomach. I pray for God to somehow change and soften your hearts. I would never let my children be so rude.
With in democratic nations the chief concern of the people is to prevent the continuation or the rise of autocratic institutions that beget slavery at home and aggression abroad. Within our borders, as in the world at large, popular opinion is at war with a power-seeking minority. The health and happiness of you and your children are no concern to ours? Shall we expose our population once more by the repeal of laws, Governor McCrory, such as making it purposely difficult to be able to vote in your state? We know what the deal is with all the cruel republican governors and their deceitful agenda to make fools of the public. It's despicable. I wouldn't be too proud of being called an American at this point because you are a disservice to the people of North Carolina! You should be voted out immediately!
>> This is Journalist, Mychal Massie's, opinion of the Obamas. Even if you love Obama you might take a few minutes to read this because it is unvarnished in its implications for them and our country. This journalist is not afraid like so many are to be branded a racist simply because she is black. How beautiful and liberating the truth can be when our minds are opened for all who care to see and be free.
>> The summary below of Barack and Michelle Obama’s 5 year reign in the White House is by far the best I've ever read as it squarely hits the nail on the head. And it took a black reporter writing it to make it as effective as it is. A white man’s account would be instantly criticized by the liberal media as pure racism. But, how can anyone scream Racist when an exacting description of the Obamas is penned by a well known journalist of color?
>> BEST SUMMATION OF BARACK AND MICHELLE OBAMA EVER!
>> (Mychal Massie is a respected writer and talk show host in Los Angeles.)
>> The other evening on my twitter, a person asked me why I didn't like the Obama's. Specifically I was asked: "I have to ask, why do you hate the Obama's? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture."
>> The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I've made no secret of my contempt for the Obamas. As I responded to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don't like them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.
>> I don't hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the worst kind of racialists, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for traditional America. They display disrespect for the sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle Obama's raw contempt for white America is transpicuous.
>> I don't like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress.
>> I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President, and a love of our country and her citizens, from the leader entrusted with the governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the United States of America and its people. The Reagan's made Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish.
>> His arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing Congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like jack-booted thugs?
>> Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that low standard, the Obama's have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.
>> I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to now being able to be proud of America. I view that statement and that Mindset as an insult to those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world. Michelle Obama is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do that.
>> I have a saying, that "the only reason a person hides things, is because they have something to hide." No President in history has spent over a million dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.
>> And what the two of them have shared has been proven to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address.
>> He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today. He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel.
>> His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement – as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.
>> I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my public condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.
>> Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin;
>> it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.
>> I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.
>> As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" – "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader.
>> He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic,contumacious arrogance is unequaled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood.
>> Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement – while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.
>> SETBACKS pave the way for COMEBACKS
I agree 100%. One thing u forgot to mention he was not born in this country.
Newt Gingrich stalling to prevent Van Jones from asking the Gov. McCrory about Duke Power !!! This is very disturbing.
It felt funny to hear Gingrich talk about Europian countries in the context of minimum wage. How many times we have heard him berating anything to do with Europe or any other country in the world?
Do you not realize obama is a commie? Just wait a year and you will understand.
WHO IS VAN JONES?