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The great divide: red states vs. blue states
President Obama said, "I'm going to be seeking Republicans who are game to work with us." But will he find those people in red states or blue states?
At 6:30pm ET, Governor Rick Perry (R-TX) and Governor Pat Quinn (D-IL) will join Van Jones and Newt Gingrich to debate who has the better plan to run this country.
We want you to weigh in: Which states are working more effectively for Americans?
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The nazi heritage manifested in YAF purges has reappeared as praetorian misdeeds of corporate governance and GOP fractuousness
Nice keep going after Texas, yet all you have to do look at all the out of state license plates, maybe they should all go back home and collect unemployment.
The great divide: red states vs. blue states
Red states have jobs
Blue states have TAXES & REGULATION
@Fargon
"Blue states are informed and red states are not..It's killing our country. Fargon"
Way to show your ignorance and simplistic thinking. Please never run for office!!! I can make generalizations, too – "Blue states don't believe in Constitutional Rights, Red states do"
People are the same everywhere – whether they live in a blue or red state. Stop with the division talk and wake up, please.
I find no intelligence here.
The Urban people seems to vote Demcrat
. The rural areas seems to vote GOP. Low income states votes GOP. High income states vote democrat
The divide isn't Red states versus Blue states. That's something of a misnomer. The divide is Rural versus Urban. Rural is conservative, Urban is liberal...at least so far as the majority goes. In Washington State, a Blue State, 5 of 33 counties are vote blue. the other 28 counties vote red. The 5 counties that vote blue? Oh, they include King County (Seattle), Pierce County (Tacoma), Clark County (Vancouver), Snohomish County (Everett), and just last Presidential election, Spokane County (Spokane) voted blue for the 1st time.
Without those 5 populous counties, Washington State is solid Red. So again, it's not Red State versus Blue State, it's rural versus urban. And when rural gets tired of the bull and turns off the trucks to the cities, THAT's when the fit hits the shan.
The state I live in is called the State of Shock. I live in that State because the Citizens of this Country have allowed themselves to continually be Fooled by what these Two Parties spew from their mouths, lies and deceit, day in and day out. Stealing from you, Your damn money, your damn Freedom. Lead you with the belief that they Really Care About YOU and YOUR FAMILIES, HEALTH, SAFETY and WELFARE and You Really Believe This. It Shocks ME!!!
The red sates are all bloated with PWT. They are churning out stupid people by the minute. The red states are nothing but a burden on everyone. They suck up more fed money than any blue state.
wow, misinformed much? The bulk of federal 'entitlements' go directly to BLUE cities and states. RED states have people that actually work for a living and thus take less from the federal government. I don't know what world you wake up in every morning but you might try waking up on Earth tomorrow!
Hi Mike...hate to burst your Limbaugh haze...but here is federal tax spending by state. Facts matter.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0923084.html
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Red states seem to be dreaming of an alternate reality. Blue states embody the true American spirit of justice and equality.
Very well said. You are clearly a very intelligent person. You must have learned outside red state public schools.
Really? ROFL.. Dems equality has nothing to do with the American spirit. More like the Marx spirit.
TEA/GOP is pushing George the Third aristocracy. The Founding Fathers are spinning in their graves.
Correct. I doubt if you know the difference between Karl Marx and Groucho Marx. People who throw that around don't know jack. Karl Marx was an economist. He was a political activist but not a politician.
I think the last name says everything about that comment....LOL.
blue states are clueless obama sheep. he will choose the sheep.
Like ditto heads?
And leaders in very red states glorify Ted Nugent.
W would ANYBODY want to work with Obama? You would have to be hopelessly misinformed, and seeking financial ruin. All of his programs are spectacular disasters.
You are confusing President Obama for W.
Gee who is the president who wanted unlimited spending? HUMM hint he is still in office.
Let's look at spending increases.
Bush spending bills governed spending from 2002-2009 (the 2001 spending bills for bush was passed under Clinton, just like the 2009 spending bills for Obama was passed under Bush).
These are the actual federal spending levels (not what was budgeted, but what really went out)
2002 – 2.01 trillion
2003 – 2.16 trillion
2004 – 2.29 trillion
2005 – 2.47 trillion
2006 – 2.66 trillion
2007 – 2.73 trillion
2008 – 2.98 trillion
2009 – 3.52 trillion
And now Obama's:
2010 – 3.46 trillion
2011 – 3.60 trillion
2012 – 3.54 trillion
2013 – 3.45 trillion
See what happened there... after increasing every year... spending has actually been going down the last 2 years. And those are nominal dollars, not inflation adjusted. Here's how it looks if you adjust the dollars to 2005 inflation adjusted numbers:
2002 – 2.18 trillion
2003 – 2.29 trillion
2004 – 2.37 trillion
2005 – 2.47 trillion
2006 – 2.57 trillion
2007 – 2.57 trillion
2008 – 2.75 trillion
2009 – 3.21 trillion
2010 – 3.11 trillion
2011 – 3.18 trillion
2012 – 3.07 trillion
2013 – 2.92 trillion
Plenty of stuff to attack Obama on. But out of control spending simply isn't one of them. He's leveled off spending significantly. While Clinton's spending increased in inflation adjusted dollars less then Bush... it was still increasing. For obama the spending actually has been going down.
Interesting that when it comes to increasing spending, the GOP has done it more then the democrats. The difference is they are less fiscally conservative... the democrats are willing to increase taxes to pay for it while the GOP just wants to borrow money to pay for their spending.
Kurt- You aren't seriously trying to give Obama credit for the sequester cuts that he promised wouldn't happen are you?
Why are all the blue states financial disasters?
I didn't know Ala, Miss, Kent, W Va were blue.
Red GOP's "jobs creators" masters are in tight with Red China. Republicans propose policy based on what will improve the Chinese investments of the 1%, not better the lives of American workers. A vote for The GOP is a capitulation to China; they will dictate, Conservative lawmakers will obey.
Too bad 45% of all jobs created under BHO, were created in TX
Common knowledge that the population has grown in Texas. Those "jobs" are more opportunities to flip burgers. The education system in Texas is known for being abismal, creating their own version of history. Yes, Texas is a great example of what Republicans would give us.
Do I have to repeat myself to get a post? Red states are generally ignorant and Bible crazed, Blue states are more informed and more rational. Fargon
Please don't. Your ignorance and intolerance on on display enough. Perhaps you should speak/post less..
Yes they are more informed on how to obtain free government subsidies. There is a lot of paperwork to fill out for those the I's and T's need to be dotted and crossed properly.
the fact that you believe that demonstrates that you are neither informed or reasonable.
Perry talked of all the jobs that texas is creating vs other state but has any other state received the amount of federal money that texas has since Nixon years
In light of Texas' history of rebellion/treason, all Federal assets, bases, ect should be removed from there to patriotic blue states. It is irresponsible to put taxpayer resources at risk in such a place. That would end Texas prosperity.
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red=fascism ,,,,,
Facism, like Communism, is a left leaning political ideology. Both have total government control over the population. In one, private business is co-opted by the government. In the other, there is no private business. Please learn your history.
WWII was fought against Fascist, right wing totalitarianism. If there is ever socialism in USA, it will be the result of corporations owning government. Guess which party is pushing for that. TEA/GOP.
Please learn the difference between left and right ideologies. The left is the way of government control over society, how it learns, thinks, produces and distributes wealth. Facism is government control of the economy by dictating to private industry how much and what to produce. We're taught from an early age that Facism is a Right leaning political ideology by the left while they have fully embraced Marx. In reality, they're both Leftist ideals. It should be Noted that FDR, who was a huge proponent of big government was a Leftist and also a huge fan of facism, modeling most of his public works programs after facist programs taking place in Europe at the time. So please, educate yourself before making such statements.
Books/talk on Blaze TV are not education. TEA/GOP is pushing corporate ownership of government.
Red states rob their citizens by sending us congressmen who are in bed with big oil and who let the rich and the corporations use all our resources without paying taxes – thereby impoverishing their own states. Red states fail to regulate pollution from corporations – such as Duke Energy which is happily befouling all the waters in West Virginia. They rob their people by refusing to spend on education and so you have ignorant people who think poor people are their problem, when in fact Walmart is the biggest welfare queen in America, paying their hardworking poor so little they have to get food stamps – which we pay for – to keep from going hungry. This money, our money, goes into the pockets of the Walmart family who are one of the richest families in he world. Thank you red state congressmen for supporting welfare for billionaires while waging a war on the poor – most of whom live in red states. Red states have treated our duly elected president like a dog, because he is Black, but like to pretend they are not racist. Red states let white people shoot Black kids and get away with it because they think gun rights are more important than human rights, thereby causing their Black citizens to live in terror. Red states rip off the worker by oppressing union activity. Red states oppress the votes of people they don't like, thereby destroying democracy for all. Red states pass laws enshrining bigotry, pretending their hate is 'religious freedom.' Tell it to the Nazis. It is disgusting and they should be ashamed. Red states do not help their people by encouraging hatred and violence. I could go on, but it is making me feel sad and angry thinking about it.
Red Ink states are moochers! We should have let them win the Civil War, because then we wouldn't have to pay for them, or let them embarrass us in front of the other First World countries!
Reconstruction, after the War of Southern Treason, ended about two hundred years too soon. Don't forget that Texas was founded by illegal aliens who rebelled against the lawful government. That's treason times 2.
There are millions of people in Texas who don't have access to Obama care because of Gov. Perry's refusal to accept it.
This is an easy one. Compare nearly insolvent California with Texas.
Get facts instead of sniffing Limbaugh brain flatulence. Gov. "Moonbeam" has brought California back from Arnold's incompetence. Many more incidents like Texas City and West Texas and the state will be blown-up. We'll see how solvent Texas is after the lawsuits for voter suppression/personhood cases land in court.
States in the worst financial shape? Solidly blue. Shocker.
Like those economic powerhouses in Ala, Miss, Kent, and W Va? Get your head out of cluster Fox's backside.
Media is part of the problem; you give equal weight to both ludicrous ideologies when clearly one is more insane than the other. I will leave it up to the hoi polloi to decide which one of them i am insulting.
You can always count on media to spin everything into its most sensationalized form.
so here go the red states , discriminating against under the gise of religious freedom, hopefully discrimination of any kind will be found to be unsonsutional
Ask this question on fox and you would get a different answer
That;s funny, the graphic shows red but it says blue. Somebody needs a color test.
Yes, Texas has had job growth. Companies like AT&T and others have closed up centers in IL and MI and moved the jobs to Right To Work States like Texas.
You're right Marcia. i spent considerable time in one of those transplanted factories a couple of years ago. The engineers were all here from India on H1B visas and all of the workers spoke Spanish.
Yet Tex wants Fed $ when a town gets blown-up because they lack regulations. A sub-living wage only benefits the 1%.
The Red states work for the rich and the Blue for the poor and middle – is this something that anyone denies?
Blue states are informed and red states are not..It's killing our country. Fargon
Will Obama find Republicans willing to work with him?
It depends on what he is working towards.