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October 23rd, 2013
11:32 AM ET
Who is to blame for Obamacare failures?
Reason Magazine editor Nick Gillespie talks with Crossfire hosts S.E. Cupp and Van Jones about who is responsible for the Obamacare website issues.
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Posted by Crossfire staff Filed under: Debates • Health care • Nick Gillespie • S.E. Cupp • Tom Perriello • Van Jones |
Meet the Hosts
Author, documentary filmmaker, historian, Speaker of the House (1995-1999), and 2012 Republican presidential candidate
Fmr. Obama Deputy Campaign Mgr. and W.H. Sr. Adviser, founder of Precision Strategies, fmr. Sr. Adviser to Maj. Leader Reid and Sen. Kennedy
Conservative columnist for New York Daily News, contributing editor at Townhall Magazine, commentator and author
Former Special Adviser for Green Jobs under President Obama, co-founder of Rebuild the Dream, author and attorney
The GOP is the problem with Obamacare. When GW Bush rolled out his Medicare Part D Prescription Drug Plan, that program faced many start-up problems, but we never heard much about them, because Democrats worked with Republicans on the sign-up in a great bipartisan effort. The GOP has made getting rid of Obamacare its highest priority and the program has been the recipient of a major bash and lie campaign from all corners of the GOP for years.
You lost all credibility with the hitler comment! Host needs to get control of his interview session. Didn't get to hear from the other guy in the clip. Also, host talks way to fast to understand him.
'Whatever'
I can't believe that so many people justify lying,the Presidents statement was unequivocal.Whatever you think about the issue the meaning of his statement was obvious.
Well it certainly is not the GOP that screwed this Act up or its much anticipated launch. It is hilarious that what the GOP could not do, delay Obamacare, the Democrats will likely have to do merely to save face. I guess the House was not so dumb after all!
yes you have it pretty much right.
The GOP never wanted the ACA period just bc it was an Obama "product". What they should have done was try to amend some of the provisions. Instead t hey failed time and time again to repeal it. As for the website problems etc. that's a separate issue.......implementation and execution wasn't the GOP's main concern it was the content of the law.
Not True I am not a Rep or Dem, I am an American...Anyone who read the particulars in the ACA could see clearly that not only does this infringe on our freedom of choice it also will inflict massive damage into 1/7 of this nations economy. The construct of this act was screwed up from the start, had poor representation, No Physician involvement and more importantly was lead by someone who was not qualified to lead the implementation. The Dems can blame Bush yadda, yadda, but the buck stops with Obama. I don't say that because he is a Democrat or because of the color of his skin. I say it becasue to suggest that the Pres,knew nothing of the downstream effect this will have on the American people is simply not true. Not only die he lie 30+ times to the American people, he continues to lie to cover his lies (recent press conference where he read carefully scripted words to cover his Arse). His leadership is deplorable. The Republicans and Democrats both know that Healthcare needs reform, but not at the cost of infringing upon our rights. We can still reform Healthcare and fix things like, pre-existing condition denials...that everyone talks about. Bottom line, Obama's Administration has no accountability. Obama will do what he always does, hunker down, point the finger at others and not directly own up to mistakes that have been made. He needs to man up, directly to the American people. Now we are into Nov. and 4.2 million have lost their HC coverage...there is much more to come and this will only get much worse. Many of our leaders in Washington are misguided, uninformed and continue to forget who their employer is. This is only going to come back hard on Obama as it should, unless he displays some integrity and ownership of what he promoted and shoved down the throats of the American people w/out doing his homework. All said and done, I think Obama knows what he is doing and it is very un-American. Talk is cheap with this administration and he has lost much credibility. Gallop Polls yesterday- 53% dissaprove, 49 % approve. Lowest yet, and this will only go further if he doesn't grow a pair.
Speculation.
If you go to the finance office and request $60k for a RDBMS and they only authorize 40k and say go for it - who's fault is it if it doesn't work well?
Sen. Harkin and others have pointed out Republicans refused to fund the website development as requested and "in house" resources had to be used.
This is the most ambitious rollout of any computing environment in history. It's extremely unusual to build an environment anticipating or realizing millions of new unique users in a matter days, all of whom require very good authentication and data security.
Processing and coordinating that data with insurance company systems even in other states is extremely data and network intensive. No one is doing that except maybe the NSA and they didn't have such a time line.
Seeing people try to compare this with FB or any other social media that was built up over years as their user base grew while requiring no comprehensive security is laughable.
If the project was funded properly then it looks like someone didn't do their job but we don't know who and even that conclusion may be presumptuous - and Republicans can ignore their own culpability and some people may agree with them but I know this road very well.
I would like to see a lot less hypocrisy and amateur Systems Analysts in the "monkey hearings."
yeah you got that right..obama got it right with persuing the war on terrorism given the plan from Bush but domestically he has failed no different than Bush. The problem is a failing two party system..I personally am a Independent but I no longer see a two party system as effective for America to progress. I bellieve either my own party step up on the plate or shutup. Hell I will run..because I am not a rich man whether lawyer, millionairre in business but I am a verteran sergeant in the Army. Hell I cant do much worse than these SOBs!
Oh thank the lord we got to read your B.S., r u really that dumb to believe what your blogging ????
A better question is, "Do you have anything rational to say to the contrary"? Lets hear it. I know my business very well.
I would agree....its Bushes fault....
And Bush ate my homework trypical librael responce.
Responce ? It's response.....typical right wing spelling 🙂 just kidding .
"THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES ON".
It is only natural...IT'S BUSH"S FAULT!!!
Web sites are squirrelly. It is very easy for one person to sabotage a site. Could one or two nuts behind some of these problems. The problem with the web it is hard to see who is behind the site. It is like the group that believed the comet was coming for them and committed suicide –they were making software that was to protect children using the net from improper sites. I know a teacher that was almost fired because a student downloaded site from a disk to their computer (60 second was all they needed). The site problems need fixed, but have nothing to do with the product.
Saw this segment but it's disappointing that only part of it is shown here. Nick made some excellent points that are cut out.
GOPers because they withheld funding for a long time – stalling whenever they could
A true obam suck up you r, of course its any faults but obam. Do you realize how stupid u sound ???
By all means it could NEVER be Obama so it must be Bush.
Refs' include the US Supreme Court Website. Everone who takes generic drugs needs to know this:
624/13 Mutual Pharmaceutical Co v Bartlett In a 5-4 vote, the US Supreme Court struck down a lower court’s ruling. According to the victim and the state courts, the drug caused a flesh-eating side effect that left the patient permanently disfigured. The highest court in the land ruled that the victim had no legal grounds to sue the corporation because its drugs are exempt from lawsuits. If the FDA says something is safe, it doesn’t matter if that decision is wrong or the result of lies, fraud or deception on the part of the world’s pharmaceutical companies. And there’s no way to sue the FDA for being wrong and costing millions of unsuspecting Americans their lives. That result leaves 240 million Americans unprotected from an industry responsible for more preventable deaths in the US than any other cause. The Supreme Court protected generic drug companies from being sued for any harmful effects of drugs the FDA has approved. Two years ago, the high court ruled that inadequate labeling of a generic drug was not cause for a lawsuit against the maker. Aubrey Pringle, Medill News Service 3:17 p.m. EDT July 4, 2013 USA Today. The Obama administration backs the drug company. Wed Mar 20, 2013 CNN Supreme Court Watch
Since he forced it on us, despite the polls not wanting it, I would put the blame on Obama.
Obamacare hasn't failed. The website needs fixing, but the LAW itself hasn't failed. The Affordable Care Act IS NOT A WEBSITE.
R u on drugs
It’s funny, our dear leader doesn’t seem to know about anything bad that happens:
• Benghazi attack – didn’t know about it
• IRS scandal – didn’t know about it
• NSA scandal – didn’t know about it
• Obamacare website not working – didn’t know about it
I guess if you claim you don’t know about something, you can’t blame Bush, oops, I mean, you can’t blame someone else.
How can he be a leader if he doesn't know a thing about what he was doing?
I used to get punished if I answered any questions with "I don't know" or "I didn't know"
For Christ's sake his name is on the damn thing. How do you not know about faults in Obamacare
Absolutely perfectly said!!
perfectly said Carlos I mean!
Perhaps if everyone stopped trying to place blame for every little thing that goes wrong and instead worked together to find solutions, we might actually be able to get something done as a country for once.
Godo point..now tell Harry Reid and the Anointed one to follow your tact.
Excellent point angus!
Bush of course. LOL