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July 15th, 2014
09:42 PM ET

Jones, Bachmann battle on border issue

Van Jones and Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) have a heated debate on the immigration crisis.

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  1. ProtectAmericanJobs

    Wouldn't we be better off if Our Elected Leaders Started Working Together as AMERICANS for AMERICANS and AMERICA, instead of just bickering, stalling and posturing for the next election as democrats and republicans/tea-whatevers!

    The American People have had it with this unproductive BS!

    The way that both parties having been operating for years just stinks!

    Neither party has really been looking out for the best interests of the US Citizens who elect them and who they're supposed to represent.

    July 24, 2014 at 11:03 pm | Reply
  2. ProtectAmericanJobs

    This has gotten completely out of control and President Obama's "Plan" is waiting for a "recommendation" by the end of summer and throwing $3.7-billion at the problem? – What the heck? – Can't he figure this out for himself? – First it's $2-Billion, now it's $3.7-Billion – This is just more empty talk and stupidity. – Why the hell do we need to wait until the end of the summer or need $3,700,000,000 dollars when we already have troops on the payroll? – It's a no-brainer, the first priority is to secure our southern border and our military should absolutely be deployed to shut the floodgates that are allowing thousands upon thousands of unauthorized illegal aliens to continue to pour into our country! – We don't need a "blue-ribbon-committee" or any other BS to figure this out.

    The very first priority is to secure our border and then go from there.

    We need to Stop Unauthorized Foreigners from just Flooding into Our Country!

    When are our frigging idiotic traitorous "leaders" ACTUALLY going to do something about this? – How many more years do they think that they can keep stalling for? – And yes – I'm Angry with Both Parties – As are most American Citizens right now!

    July 24, 2014 at 6:55 pm | Reply
  3. Fred

    BAchmann has her favorite furniture piece already picked out , and ready to put into a corner in the oval office when she gets elected, ROFLMAO.

    July 24, 2014 at 3:27 pm | Reply
  4. ritmocojo

    Those eyes on the cover of 'TIME' magazine still haunt me to this day...

    July 24, 2014 at 8:55 am | Reply
  5. Patti

    If Michele Bachmann had one brain cell, it would be lonely. I used to live in MN and can't believe they actually voted for this bigoted bimbo twit. I'm sure she knows she won't be re-elected and that's why she's quitting. Or maybe she thinks, like Palin, she'll be hired by Fox for her intelligent take on the world. Actually, she's right down their alley.

    July 23, 2014 at 3:35 pm | Reply
  6. Rick J.

    This immigration issue has been turned on its head. As a native american whose ancestors survived the "Trail of Tears" I would like to point out that many of these so called "Illegal Immigrants" had forefathers coming in to what is now called the United States for thousands of years. It is a fact that the Mayans came all the way up to where Georgia is now. While Ms Bachmans ancestors where harvesting grain for cereal in Germany or god knows where 900 years ago, these "Illegals" had ancestors certainly in North America and probably in the United States. S what I would like to see is for Mrs Bachman to personally escort one of these "Illegals" to the border and once there she can just keep on going herself.

    July 21, 2014 at 12:18 pm | Reply
    • George

      And just for the record, you are also an immigrant.

      July 22, 2014 at 8:58 am | Reply
    • southerngent

      Come on Rick, this is the 21 century. Originally, our ancestors were accepted into this land. Nevertheless, we now are a nation of laws some of which include border control. Illegal aliens are breaking the law, period. BTW, do you know of ANY nation, country, government who does not have borders laws?

      July 23, 2014 at 8:07 am | Reply
  7. Jack

    Bachmann has again and again and again shown that she doesn't belong in position of authority. Please go back home!

    July 20, 2014 at 1:12 pm | Reply
    • southerngent

      And Obama has proved again and again and again that he should never have been President!

      July 21, 2014 at 1:02 pm | Reply
      • RLB

        Obama has proven to those of us who have ELECTED him a second time, that he is a courageous commander in chief, has proven his eloquence many times and it's really the do nothing congress who should NOT be elected again.

        July 21, 2014 at 2:25 pm |
      • southerngent

        RLB Obama has proven to those of us who have ELECTED him a second time, that he is a courageous commander in chief, has proven his eloquence many times and it's really the do nothing congress who should NOT be elected again.

        Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, courageous ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!!!!!!!!! I'm laughing at your ignorant post but sadly the world is laughing at us. Obama is the weakest president ever both domestic and foreign.

        Let's see he had a one vote shy of a super majority the first two years and managed to screw millions of hard working Americans with obamacare. So what else did he do during that time? Nothing, Nada, zero, why, because he was too busy screwing working America his precious obamacare with outright lies.

        Also, there was has been a majority in the Senate from the beginning but when some democrats were turning against Obama and Reid, Reid invokes the nuclear option! By the way, he has been using his pen and look what we get from that, abuse of power.

        July 21, 2014 at 4:14 pm |
  8. Robert Walters

    The best solution is a quick turn around, No courts, No trial, they crossed ILLEGALLY no questions round them up and send them back. including the other 12 million already here. This is imperative to the health of America.

    July 19, 2014 at 5:58 pm | Reply
  9. Retardlicons

    Bachmann is unemployed and her family is on welfare, just what she preaches to hate most.

    July 19, 2014 at 2:09 pm | Reply
    • southerngent

      Wow!!!!!!! Talking about spewing hate......... Rep. Michele Bachmann is a saint compared to you!!!!!!!!!! Wow! You need help!

      July 21, 2014 at 1:08 pm | Reply
      • RLB

        Michelle and her husband admit taking as much government assistance as they can....even under indictment....perhaps that's why she is not seeking reelection.....her wealth is questionable as is her public record & tax returns.....spewing contempt for those in need while ripping off the government yourself is not very saintly!

        July 21, 2014 at 2:29 pm |
      • southerngent

        RLB

        If you want to present a case against her then do so with fact and sources!!!! Otherwise, stfu! Everything else is liberal ignorance.

        July 21, 2014 at 4:26 pm |
      • b

        http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/candlook.php?txtName=bachmann

        Here you go- it wasn;t that hard to find, you just have to look.

        July 21, 2014 at 11:44 pm |
      • southerngent

        b

        http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/candlook.php?txtName=bachmann

        Here you go- it wasn;t that hard to find, you just have to look.

        July 21, 2014 at 11:44 pm |

        You sorry pos, I wasted my time going to a site that only posted generalize summaries. Since you don't have sh it, you tried to cover it up by typical liberal bs! OK! You have another shot at it! Post specific data to show " Michelle and her husband admit taking as much government assistance as they can....even under indictment....", also show specific data
        " her wealth is questionable as is her public record & tax returns....".

        "perhaps that's why she is not seeking reelection......spewing contempt for those in need while ripping off the government yourself is not very saintly!"

        PROVE SHE RIPPED OFF THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!! IF THIS WAS TRUE NONE OF YOU LIBERALS WOULD LET HER CONTINUE PUBLIC SERVICE!!!!!!!

        LAST CHANCE, PUT UP OR STFU!

        July 22, 2014 at 5:43 pm |
  10. s

    Nobody cares Ms. Bachmann go back to the bench.

    July 17, 2014 at 11:07 am | Reply
    • Charlotte

      Nobody care? They sure as hell do care!
      Michelle is one of the most intelligent and compassionate
      people I can think of.
      I wouldn't trade her for 1000 liberals, as she would be worth
      more as a human being.
      Honesty and integrity will win in the end.

      July 17, 2014 at 3:48 pm | Reply
      • Now That's Funny

        Nice one Charlotte!!! That's funny no matter who you are!!!!!!!!

        July 18, 2014 at 9:18 am |
      • mikey3801

        Nice one try this on for awhile. Jesus said " let the little children come to Me" But that does matter to M Bachmann . she has also forgotten the most important commandment her lord told her" Love thy Neighbor as you love yourself"

        July 18, 2014 at 12:41 pm |
      • southerngent

        mikey3801
        Nice one try this on for awhile. Jesus said " let the little children come to Me" But that does matter to M Bachmann . she has also forgotten the most important commandment her lord told her" Love thy Neighbor as you love yourself"

        July 18, 2014 at 12:41 pm |

        Not so nice one, try this on for size.

        How many of these " little children " are criminals?

        What is the cost to build new jails to house these " little children "?

        What will be the cost to feed, clothe, house, educate, provide health services to these " little children " to adulthood?

        How many adults are coming with these " little children ".

        What scripture will you quote when it is millions instead of thousands?

        How much are you willing to give up to provide for them, and that is just the ones who are here and on the way?

        Do you want an open border?

        This is the biggie. What exactly, would Jesus do?

        July 18, 2014 at 4:13 pm |
    • zzz,s

      Was that the best you could come up with? Extreme hate begets simple minds voting for liberal ignorance causing an assault on American freedoms by weak leaders like Obama.

      July 24, 2014 at 4:06 pm | Reply
  11. Kathy Fleming

    I just started a petition on the White House petitions site, We the
    People. Will you sign it? http://wh.gov/lLMa4 Make American Children Our First Priority

    July 17, 2014 at 10:37 am | Reply
    • southerngent

      Tried to go to the site, didn't work. However, the problem with your petition is we are not supposed to be a government of welfare, but rather a government of freedom to achieve. At this point in our country we can no longer help those who truly need help because we have become a people of (the government owes me) and are reaching a saturation point whereby the takers are taking from the needful and overtaking the providers.

      July 22, 2014 at 6:02 pm | Reply
  12. jonquil123

    We ARE taking care of them; vaccines, shelter, showers, soap, clothes, entertainment, bedding, food - Michelle is not talking about that. She's talking about, firstly, the major, security issue and secondly, what is all, this additional, requested money for? Specifically? Because I'm pretty sure most Americans want an emergency response to this from groups already prepared for it, not an opportunity to develop new social programs around this uninvited, emergency. She's right; these ARE foreign nationals and they have made choices on behalf of The American People, without our consent. Why doesn't that matter?

    July 17, 2014 at 8:19 am | Reply
  13. ProtectAmericanJobs

    It's a no-brainer, the first priority is to secure our southern border and our military should absolutely be deployed to shut the floodgates that are allowing thousands upon thousands of unauthorized illegal aliens to continue to pour into our country!

    For the last 25-years, our idiotic traitorous political "leaders" have been selling out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the incursion of illegal aliens (cheap labor) and the outsourcing floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide.

    Economic Fairness for the American People and the Real American Economy: It's called Tariffs, Tax Incentives for Repatriating Industries and American Jobs and Protecting Our Southern Border.

    We should immediately start using our military to Start Keeping ILLEGAL Aliens Out. Bring our troops home from the mindless Middle East and deploy them on our southern border. Let's use our troops here in the USA to Protect Our Country from the Incursion of Illegal Aliens here at Home, instead of keeping them in the Middle East, which is just going to continue to be a never ending region of stupidity and violence. We should also start hiring more of our unemployed veterans as additional border patrol officers, ICE and INS agents. Cause Lord knows, we need to do a better job of protecting our southern border and getting control of our illegal alien problem.

    The American People need Our Leaders to start remembering that they are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself and that They are NOT Elected By or To Represent Lobbyist, the Global Marketplace (WTO, NAFTA, TPP), Foreign Citizens or Illegal Aliens.

    Wouldn't it be More Productive if Our Elected Leaders Started Working Together as AMERICANS for AMERICANS and AMERICA, instead of just bickering, stalling and posturing for the next election as democrats and republicans/tea-whatevers! The American People have had it with this unproductive BS! The way that both parties having been operating for years just stinks! Neither party has really been looking out for the best interests of the US Citizens who elect them and who they're supposed to represent.

    July 16, 2014 at 1:52 pm | Reply
    • ProtectAmericanJobs

      Talk is cheap! – The very First Priority is to Secure Our Border and then go from there.

      When are our frigging idiotic traitorous "leaders" ACTUALLY going to do something about this? – How many more years do they think that they can keep stalling for? – And yes – I'm Angry with Both Parties – As are most American Citizens right now!

      These intruders are Unauthorized Foreigners or Illegal Aliens – They are Not just "undocumented immigrants" – They are intruders! – And based upon that truth, they have no constitutional rights in our country.

      We need to Stop Unauthorized Foreigners from just Flooding into Our Country!

      Illegal "immigrants"? – They're not just doing jobs that Americans don't want. (And I'm not talking about migrant workers, which is obviously not the problem) Do they pay state and federal income taxes? Don't get me wrong many of these people work hard, but are a drain on the system if they don't pay income taxes, have healthcare coverage, learn the language or get paid wages that are in line with their American counterparts. We all know that the health care provided to uninsured illegals here in the states is being averaged into our hospital costs and our insurance premiums, which have PROPORTIONATELY increased along with illegal immigration over the last 20 years? But somehow both parties keep ignoring this. These costs are also being passed along to Medicaid and Medicare, which means that not only are they increasing our insurance premiums, but that we're paying for them again with our tax dollars. Our tax dollars and insurance premiums should not be used to recoup the cost of healthcare given to illegal aliens, who shouldn't even be here in our country in the first place.

      Just look around and you'll see who's doing 90% of the residential renovations, construction and property maintenance jobs. That's certainly what we're seeing in the northeast. These are not just jobs that Americans don't want.

      The hiring of cheap illegal labor causes a chain reaction. The contractors who hire cheap, uninsured, non-income-taxpaying, ILLEGAL aliens undercut the contractors who hire US Citizens or Legal immigrants. Even if the contractor wants to continue to employ US Citizens or Legal tax-paying immigrants, they end up replacing their Legal employees with illegals just to be able to get the work. Unfortunately unions and the old "that's not my job" union attitudes here in the USA have also contributed to this problem.

      Also when these Non-income-tax-paying illegal Aliens take American Citizens jobs they also are taking away the income tax revenue that those working American Citizens would be providing to our government. In addition, the American Citizens who have their jobs taken away by these Illegal Aliens then have to be paid unemployment and usually have no healthcare insurance either because they can't afford COBRA, which adds even more to our deficit and further increases our healthcare costs.

      Over the last 2-3 decades, our idiotic traitorous political "leaders" from both parties have been selling out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the incursion of illegal aliens (cheap labor) and the outsourcing floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide.

      I run a business that does it the right way and employs 20 US Citizens and 1 Legal Immigrant and I believe that the use of Workplace Raids is a perfectly realistic way to put a stop to this BS. Plus we should publish the results of these workplace raids and fines to the public, so American Citizens and customers could see which companies are employing illegals.

      Let's get the good productive illegal immigrants into the system and paying federal and state income tax or get them out and NOT Let Any More Come In unless they come in as Legal Immigrants. Make them apply for legal visas and or U.S. citizenship and if they don't, then get them out. If they get rejected get them out or give them one quick appeal and if they still get rejected, then get them out. And let's send the bad ILLEGAL Aliens back to where they came in and let's STOP ANYMORE ILLEGAL ALIENS from getting in.

      Any Illegal Aliens that are already in our jails, for crimes that they have committed in our country, should stay in our prisons until they have severed their sentences and then be deported immediately upon their release from prison.

      We should immediately start using our military to Start Keeping ILLEGAL Aliens Out. Bring our troops home from the mindless Middle East and deploy them on our southern border. Let's use our troops here in the USA to Protect Our Country from the Incursion of Illegal Aliens here at Home, instead of keeping them in the Middle East, which is just going to continue to be a never ending region of stupidity and violence. We should also start hiring more of our unemployed veterans as additional border patrol officers, ICE and INS agents. Cause Lord knows, we need to do a better job of protecting our southern border and getting control of our illegal alien problem.

      ps: Most illegal aliens are paid off the books and if they're employer says that they're deducting income tax they're lying. And the few that are being paid on the books, using fake IDs, claim a huge number of dependents, etc................ And could you or I get away with not filling income tax returns? And what about the ballsy ones that do file and claim a ridiculous amount of deductions to get big refunds. There are even sleazy accounts that specialize in helping them game the system.

      The very first priority should be to secure our border and then go from there.

      July 16, 2014 at 1:59 pm | Reply
    • Geronimo

      " I am with you fellow American, all the way!"

      July 19, 2014 at 8:47 am | Reply
  14. emskadittle

    it is really telling that this morn is on the house intelligence committee

    July 16, 2014 at 1:06 pm | Reply
    • southerngent

      emskadittle
      it is really telling that this morn is on the house intelligence committee

      July 16, 2014 at 1:06 pm | Reply

      You can't even spell moron, so it is really telling you couldn't be on the House Intelligence Committee.

      July 23, 2014 at 3:09 pm | Reply
  15. The GOP Solution

    The GOP Prayer/Mantra/Solution: Dear God...With your loving kindness, help us to turn all the Old, Sick, Poor, Non-white, Non-christian, Female, and Gay people into slaves. Then, with your guidance and compassion, we will whip them until they are Young, Healthy, Rich, White, Christian, Male, and Straight. Or until they are dead. God...Grant us the knowledge to then turn them into Soylent Green to feed the military during the next "unfunded/off-the-books" war. God...Give us the strength during our speeches to repeatedly yell........TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!!!..........and........GET RID OF SS AND MEDICARE!!!
    In your name we prey (purposely misspelled, or is it?)........Amen

    July 16, 2014 at 11:47 am | Reply
    • southerngent

      You need help man, I suggest you take advantage of your subsidized obamacare before Jan.2017.

      July 18, 2014 at 9:46 pm | Reply
    • The GOP Solution Solution

      The GOP Solution Solution:
      I gots to keep copy/pasting hate maybe I won't appear as dumb!
      I don't care about the old, sick, poor, white, Christian, female, straight as long as the government gives me free stuff.
      I hopes they die so I gets their stuff.
      Tax the rich more and more and more and more and more and more cause I ain't gonna work for me free stuff!
      My comment of soylent green is sicking but I don't care I gots to have my free stuff.
      I can lie better dan enybody so who cares.
      I don't need ss or medicare cause da gubermant man gives me free stuff and I just go er anyway.
      I can't speal enyhow an I hopes god do not read my stuplid sick stuff.
      Did I manchon I wants more free stuff!

      July 20, 2014 at 5:00 pm | Reply
  16. Mason

    Larry your lucky they even post your comment on this page. CNN like the Democratic party now is for OPEN BORDERS. I think its going to be a while before people realize Obama and friends are not interest in enforcement of our laws or borders. Obama's DACA decision was like an open invitation. Since you did not give a position I guess they let you get through.

    July 16, 2014 at 10:13 am | Reply
    • More people

      More people have been deported under Obama than under Bush.

      July 16, 2014 at 4:57 pm | Reply
      • southerngent

        Come on "The GOP Solution", the counting process changed under Obama to include the ones turned away at the border. Your behind in times try to keep up with what is going on.

        July 18, 2014 at 4:21 pm |
      • MDR

        Sorry, but that is a complete and outright lie. I don't know where you get your facts or figures from. If you a re posting that comment based on an assumption......sorry but you are wrong. If you are doing it based on figures provided by this administration, you are wrong and you are believing a lie.

        How do I know this? You see.....Mexican and Canadian citizens are the only ones, based on individual cases, the ones granted a Voluntary Return to their home country, if they are found to be in the country illegally. There are some factors that can change that , but for most part they'd be granted an easy return back to their respective countries. It's a simple administrative procedure.

        A deportation, while still considered and administrative procedure, carries infinite more weight and consequences, Usually, such orders of deportation have to be administer by an Immigration Judge and they carry a minimum of 5 years penalty. The subject, wouldn't be able to apply for a visa or permit to be in this country until such time has passed. A subsequent violation (if caught) would impose another 5 years, and so on, and so on.

        How is this at all pertinent to your statement? I'm about to tell you. Obama, this administration and its agencies have been furnishing the numbers that while they are not quite a lie, they are not quite the truth either. You see, numbers are quite a funny thing. Figures can serve to make someone look a hero or a zero.

        In this case, this administration has been tallying the Voluntary Returns as part of the final deportations figure. Again...How do I know this? Because I work for one of the major government agencies that have been trusted to enforce our immigration laws. Which this regime has been making impossible to do......but that is another story.

        You have to ask yourself a question: If in fact Obama has deported more illegal immigrants that any other president.....then why would the Union officials from ICE (now HSI), and Border Patrol would address the lack of enforcement by this regime on national television?

        I mean this in the best of ways. Go out and do some research. I'm not asking you to believe Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc. Go out and talk to some immigration lawyers, Deportation Officers, Border Patrol Agents, Immigration Enforcement Agents, etc. They will not only tell you the truth, but also paint you a clear picture that your ears wouldn't believe.

        Stay informed,

        MDR

        July 20, 2014 at 12:09 am |
  17. Lee

    The ease in which CNN and the producers give the voice of communism a place on the podium. If the nonexistent resistance to allowing the voice of an avowed communist to co-host a United States television show is " par for the course" then the United States needs a " COURSE" correction pronto....................and I can hear the whine now " but he has disavowed any allegiance to the communist party" among other votes of confidence Jones instills in "lemmings". .....and another thing, If calling a communist a communist sounds like Joe McCarthy, should we turn from the truth and welcome others on the dias. Stephanie Cutter might even be a "socialist"

    July 16, 2014 at 2:00 am | Reply
  18. PaulRainwater

    all I can say is I would never allow my children near Michelle Bachmann, what a nut job...

    July 16, 2014 at 12:33 am | Reply
  19. PaulRainwater

    whoever is allowing Bachmann to be a foster parent should be fired, the woman is a complete psycho

    July 16, 2014 at 12:13 am | Reply
  20. Larry

    Has there ever been a chance for a conservative guest to be able to complete one sentence where Van Jones didn't continue to interrupt? It's disgusting and I'll probably stop watching the show as a result. Now, he can talk the entire show all by himself for all I care.

    July 15, 2014 at 9:50 pm | Reply
    • kurt

      Larry, are you familiar with Crossfire?

      It's a show of interuptions. The hosts and guests constantly interrupt each other, regardless of their political affiliation. I'm not a particular of the format, but that's how the show is designed.

      July 16, 2014 at 8:13 am | Reply

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