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First, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky is firing back at Gov. Rick Perry of Texas, in an escalation of a war of words between two potential 2016 Republican presidential contenders over U.S. foreign policy and the country's role in the bloody outbreak of fighting in Iraq. What do you make of this infighting?
Then, Attorney General Eric Holder says he sees "racial animus" in strident Republican opposition to some Obama administration policies. Some media conservatives say he's playing racial politics.
At 6:30pm ET, Newt Gingrich and guest host Paul Begala host a debate with Tim Phillips and Neera Tanden.
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Racism really? Let's call the roll. On track to double the national debt in one presidency. Fast and Furious and the refusal of this Attorney General to cooperate with congress. The incompetent roll out of the healthcare law and then the lawless changing of the law from the man who has a pen and will use it and brags about it. The targeting of opponents by the IRS. The pleading of the 5th by the woman who ran the division (I really dislike her), oh and now we lose the emails which I am sure was purely coincidental. Let's see, oh yeah the clean energy boondoggles like solyndra, the complete incompetence in enforcing immigration laws and providing for a secure border (or disdain for the laws because illegal immigration equals future democratic votes) the stonewalling on the Keystone pipeline that would make the nation more energy independent and the war on coal. Running short on breath here, but probably a few others. The complete chaos in the Midle East due to pathetic American leadership. Dead Americans in Benghazi, Iranians who play us like a fiddle, Egypt and Syria hot messes, and now Gaza and our unwillingness to stand with a long time Allie and friend, Israel after they were rocketed for days. Oh and let's top it off with Ukraine where we allowed the Russians to run rough shod and the incompetent idiots finally managed to shoot down a civilian airliner and kill 298 innocent victims. Compare the response of Pres Reagan after the Korean Airlines shoot down to Pres Obama's. This isn't about race, it is about extreme ideology that is bound up in arrogance and narcissism (both on the President and the Attorney General's part) that is combined with a historical level of incompetence. I am sick and tired of the Attorney General's excuses and even more sick of the President hiding behind his crony spokesperson. The President is incompetent; period!!!! It has nothing to do with race.
Ha, ha, ha We have just been race baited by holder, obama and cxx. Welcome to obama politics. Can't hide from failures so divert attention. He has been doing this from day one of presidency because every day is a new failure.
Every morning the conservatives wake up they play racial politics. They cannot stand a black man in the White House. After Obama's term is up they will quietly crawl back into their holes
To Quote "Colonel Potter" from TVs "MASH"... "What a Load of horse hockey".
I think a lot of what we think of as racism today is really just a product of self-preservation, rather than a sense of superiority.
Any else notice that its become routine when anyone not white is too lazy to make sense, they just immediately resort to dragging white people through the mud and slander us all with comparisons to Nazi Germany–and thereby make all facts irrelevant? If you're going to bring up Nazis, how about you exhibit some respect for how many white Americans gave their lives to stop Hitler? No comment on that, though–right?
Most white people I know are not racist, but if you routinely and automatically accuse us all of racism and parallel us to the most horrific monsters we hate just because its the easiest way to take what's ours and make it yours, maybe you're right–and if you're not, eventually you'll become right.
That blue-eyed devil may be one of the most compassionate people you'll ever meet, but may also be just one Hitler-comparison away from sprouting horns and fangs and belching flames once again.
Stop calling us Hitler. We're not Nazis–yet.
Once again, it's become about race. Face it, it must be pretty desperate to be pulling out the "race card" in the hope of deflecting criticism and blame. Let's be frank: if a white President made such a successive series of blunders he'd be impeached, but because President Obama identifies himself as black, we're all running about falling over ourselves afraid to say or do anything because we don't want to be perceived as racist. It's getting tiresome – you can't open a newspaper, turn on CNN, etc without some group or another screaming discrimination at the top of their lungs, screaming at the unfairness of not being treated special because they're black, gay, etc. What happened to this country when you made your way in life based on your abilities and merits – NOT because you belonged to this or that special interest group. Is it racist to say that as a President Obama is a dismal failure? That the administration and policies have bankrupt America? That this administration is the most divisive in the 20th century? I guess so... after all that would be implying that President Obama's race has something to do with his ineptitude.
The truth is there has been an Obama smear campaign by SOME (the point has already been conceded in a national news program today) who have racial bias for a while now. The question is, why all the defense ?
I have been told that when you throw a rock who ever gets hit will cry out....
Pah! Fact is race wouldn't even be mentioned if the administration weren't such an abysmal failure. Successful people don't scream "racial bias" and make excuses. But I'll humor you; who conceded that the reason President Obama's administration is a failure is because secretly they've been undermining his efforts because he's black. What national news program aired this breaking news? And while you're at it, please forward along the photographs of the alien autopsy from Area 51.
This is a ridiculous article.......absolutely ridiculous. I have so many problems with is opinion that I have to list them:
1. The President has screwed up numerous times and when he gets called on it, it's because of race.
2. The Republicans are allowed to disagree with the President.....they're from different political parties and you have to admit that this a very stubborn President. Yet, just because they disagree with him, it's about race.
3. Many people who voted for Obama, voted for him because of race.......is that not racism.
4. This is an article from CNN who will always have a liberal biased agenda.
Boy, a lot of long-winded explanations of why people are not prejudiced. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
Agreed. I have been told that when you throw a rock who ever gets hit will cry out....
No doubt race is a factor. As a white 60 yr old, I've seen it all; anti black, Jewish, Catholic, women, and it's not pretty.
I'm not making excuses for any poor decisions while Obama's in office, but anyone that thinks the backlash against him doesn't carry race overtones is kidding themselves.
Rich white guys lost to the black guy twice, that's the rub.
If they lose to a woman in the next race, they will melt the fuck down, and i can't wait.
I for one, appreciate your honesty. That kind of actual honesty, not bias, is what we as a country need as we go forward.
I'm not white nor black I'm in between and I'm incline to agree with you 100%. It is racial and I'm so grateful I'm not prejudice against any race. I think outside the box while others are still in the box It's sad to say that some people are in denial and are oblivious to this. The superior class will always see themselves as being above all and the law of their injustice.
All jokes I see in Facebook and Emails are race related. All GOP slander I see 80 to 90 % is race related. All activity I see in redistricting voting sectors seems race related--making the democratic sections to include those areas where the occupations are more GOP in their thinking.
He also needs to help more Americans but the House will not pass anything but Stop Obamacare. What does all this say???
Reading most of the posts on this blog prove that there are still a vast number of people who are racists. I'm white and yes I voted for Obama. The worst president to date was the one Obama took over for. He spent more time on vacation than he did in the White House doing his job. The problem with the GOP rank and file is they are so easily mislead by the media and never bother to check facts. They love talking points because that is what motivates and fuels their hatred for this president. It's sickening to listen to some of the parrot heads who post things on these blogs. When will we all come tom the realization that there is only one race of people in the world and that is the human race. We are 99.9% the same genetically with very slight differences that make us the unique person we are today. Focus on that instead of color or religious affiliation or sexual preference and maybe we can tear down the walls of racism once and for all. There is good and bad in all the different variations of the people on this planet.
I find it abhorrent that differences in opinion and philosophy are constantly boiled down to racism. Could it be that the conservatives which are asking for voter identification would be making it just as "difficult" on certain white people as people of color? Might their concerns about an increasingly socialistic and interventional government be a legitimate difference in belief and philosophy on what the proper role of government might be? Might this impact people across all ethnicities?
I have personal biases, just as everyone else on this comment board, but my objection to Obama has nothing to do with skin color or heritage, it is that he appears to totally convinced that the role of government is to solve societies ills. This is not what the founding fathers advocated and it really hasn't worked anywhere unless society as a whole was already predisposed to a form of popular socialism.
I believe, and I'd like to think the people that Holder is accusing of being racist... simply because they won't go along with Obama's agenda... also believe the solution is less one of government programs and wealth redistribution, but instead on a renewed emphasis a citizenry willing to accept personal responsibility for their own outcomes. In this the government has a legitimate role in creating opportunity and encouraging small business creation while making business consolidation more difficult, but not in a purposeful agenda of wealth transfer through taxation, establishing policies intended to somehow institutionalize "preference" as a means of achieving "equality", or somehow vilifying the very business / work ethic which is in fact the economic engine which helps make this a great country.
I can only assume Obama's and Holder's view point is based on perspectives gained by living and growing up in specific environmental conditions, but then isn't that true of us all. Problem with having such a limited perspective is that it is anything but holistic and radically needs balance. Something which neither President Obama or Mr. Holder seem to consider. Might be that this attitude is more racist than the people they are accusing of racism?
The reason race comes up with how people oppose obama is that the type of opposition he's gotten is unprecedented and people are searching for a reason.
Clinton was much more liberal then Obama... but congress (led in part by Newt Gingrich) didn't have a plan to stymie him at every opportunity. Instead they tried to find things that they could do that Clinton would sign off on. By doing that, they got welfare reform, immigration reform, trade agreements passed, a version of SCHIP and plenty of other pieces of legislation. And they got this done while IMPEACHING him.
So why won't they do the same with Obama, a far less liberal president by any policy measure?
I for one do NOT think it's racism... I think the GOP has changed and become more insane. I think if it were Clinton in there today they wouldn't pass anything that he'd sign either. In some ways, racism being an explanation would almost be more reassuring.
Just ditch the racial and politics and do your jobs. Seriously, we have real issues in our country. If a person was purple, I could care less as long and they are doing what they were sworn into and hired to do then "What difference does is make what's on anyone's skin?". Look at the inside of our country because it's a mess and not the outside of peoples skin, where they were raised, where they were born because these have no relevance to anything about how a person does his or her job.
Someone said that only 35% of Caucasians voted for Obama so that "makes them racist". So, how do you explain that only 4% of Blacks voted for Romney? Are Blacks 66% more racist than Whites? Then the point is proven that racism is alive in America ... the intolerance, bigotry and hate exhibited by Blacks in America against Whites is at an all-time high under the Obama administration.
The problem in trying to elect good leaders for The United States of America has nothing to do with the color or gender of our politicians. It's our politician's, from both parties, lack of honesty and the lack of willingness to do right by the US citizens that they're elected by and should be representing.
If a Republican had said this, it would be reported as a hate crime.
Only 4 % of blacks voted for Romney while 40% of whites did. Yes, there is racism in america
African Americans have voted for white candidates in the past and present; no issues in that community. We have ONE African American president and the GOP does everything to hinder his success. Of course you will find some mean thing to say to support your position and belittle the African American community. I expect that from you. Keep in mind, Bill Clinton is white and the African American community had no issue voting and supporting him.
The difference is that 5-10% black support of the GOP is standard even when it's two white guys running against each other.
I'm not on twitter, but I can see it.
It is true that racism exists today. There are too many factors to prove it such as the legal system, the educational system and others. Only 35% of Caucasians voted for President Obama so let's not pretend America has changed. To have Rush Limbaugh on is further proof. Rush Limbaugh is to many African Americans what Louis Farrakhan is to many Jews and Whites. We must be able to talk about racism without the White power structure trying to trivialize it.
Want real racism? 96% of blacks voted for Obama. That is racism, clearly not voting on his merits, but his race. Most people aren't irritated and angry with Obama and Holder because they are black (or 1/2 black in the case of the President), they are irritated and push back against their policies because they are horrible at their jobs and need to go!
I want to "Take My Country Back" from the Liberal Idiots........ I don't care what color they are. People are sick and tired of the Race Card being played..........It's getting old folks. I can't wait till November.
So I guess the host who blames everything on President Bush doesn't like him because he is white not because of Bush's policies he didn't agree with. Grow up you can't use racism as an excuse for bad policy and bad leadership.
We all have our own perspective of good or bad policy and good or bad leadership. For what you believe in, President Obama is not a good leader and has bad policies. For what I believe in, President Obama has some good policies and is OK as a leader. I do not agree with some of his policies, but I do agree with others. For President Bush, I believe the same is true in my opinion. It would be better if you state what is bad policy by President Obama and how the GOP can make it better. Continuing, you can present some examples of President Obama's bad leadership and how the GOP provide better leadership. Finishing, it would be very kind of you to also present President Obama's good leadership attributes and Mr. Boehner's good leadership attributes. I believe each will have some; that is, if you are objective.
I am so sick of the race card getting played whenever Obama gets any criticism for his poor governing. I'm white, but Dr. Ben Carson is my choice for the next president. It is about the man, his policies, and what he stands for – not his color!!
The belief that racism plays a role in the opposition of Obama doesn't relate to people disagreeing with him.
It has more to do with situations like the whole "birther" thing where his citizenship was being questioned despite documents showing he was born in the US being available... when his opponent (who happened to be white) who was CONFIRMED to have been born in a foriegn country was not questioned at all. (McCain was born in Panama and the paperwork that would prove he was born "on base" has all been lost).
It didn't become a big deal for McCain... but did for Obama (who actually had documents, even if people chose to not believe them). It's easy to see why race was picked out as a possible or even probably reason for that difference in scrutiny.
You may not be a racist but the fact is if you haven't experienced working for the government then really you know nothing. Work for the government then talk to me. I know, I've seen and it's pure racism and I'm not white nor black. I just saw the truth for what it is.
Birther movement being prominent until 2011 despite all evidence against it. That's all the evidence needed that there is obviously race involved in some of the hate and shock for Obama and Obama actions lol. Like really.
If Crossfire is going to discuss the racail issue, then it should be absolutely sure that It has given the right answer to the question about which President picked the first African American for his cabinet. I seem to recall learning that there was an African American at the head of one of the cabinet departments under President Kennedy. I believe it was the old HEW Department (which is now two different departments).
Obama voted for partial birth abortion-he is forcing R Catholics to pay for birth control-if A Catholic has a business they are required to give up their religion-paying for someone else to do which they know is wrong. Now wathc Obama and buddies scream racist remark. White girls told MM fat- Michelle has a large fanny arms outweigh MM-white girls are fat not she. How racist can you be?
Sophia, I do believe that your money to the R Catholic church has funded and continues to fund child molesters. Please be very careful who you throw stones at. For he who has not sin cast the first stone. You are not without sin or fault in your life. The R Catholic is powerful and has lots of money. Don't be deceived. That the power and wealth has not been used for all good. And not all those who have provide those funds are all good and without fault. Examine who you voted for in the past. Have they voted for issues counter to your belief? values? morals? If you answer no, then you are deceiving yourself.
Gee, it took him that long to come to that conclusion?
It is so clearly the case and has been since the President was elected. History will look back on this period shamefully and disgracefully at how so many treated this outstanding, exemplary President.
yep... it must be racism. Can't stand on your accomplishments? Can't stand on your merits? It must be racism. Why can't the man just fail because he's inept at governing? Nope – he's a great man and president – it's the white man that's keeping the brother down... right?
Holder might have a right to feel that way about people who think he is incompetent but he has no right to speak for Obama who honest people will admit is not 100% Black. He is a mulatto (3% Black/97%) White. Honest people will admit his real name is Barry Sotero. Honest people will admit that he was an Affirmative Action college student, picked to fill racial quotas not because of any above-average intelligence he possesses. Honest people will accept truth and reality and accept that he has been rated as the "worst president since WW2" (Source: CNN) which has nothing to do with what ethnic group he chooses to identify with.
Todd, please list President Obama's list of accomplishments since he has be in office. Please list Mr. Boehner's list of accomplishments since he has held the Speak of the House post. Please be honest and use only the facts. Afterwards, please list the groups of Americans each have help while in their respective positions. Thank you for being honest ahead of time. Oh, one more thing, keep it positive for both gentlemen.
Michael – your question is invalid. The president and congress have different roles in the government. The congress creates the laws not the president so by that measure Obama has had zero accomplishments. Boehner is Speaker of the House, there are no designated "accomplishments" for that position so therefore he has had zero accomplishments as well. That is neither negative nor positive for each gentleman, it is reality. Obama has show little willingness to work with congress and congress has shown little effort to work with Obama. That is also a fact. However, Obama is the titular leader of the country and it is his job to work with congress, not against them, and at that he has failed. He simply does not possess the skills to compromise and negotiate that even the worst presidents in history have had. Fact – not rhetoric.
Now this is an example of racism.
-He's 97% white (despite his father actually BEING african). Okay....
-His birth certificate says Barrack Obama, as does his passport and drivers license... but honest people call him Barry Sotero because that's what he was registered for in an indonesian school when he was 6.
-He's not intelligent... despite the fact he graduated from Harvard Law School magna cum laude (a purely academic based accolade)
Your entire post is a conglomoration of unsupported statements playing on various stereotypes to paint a politician you don't like in a negative light. Using race to do that is racism if you do it unitnetionally, or playing on racism if you are intentionally doing it to convince others.
Please grow up.
kurt – until the "rules" were rewritten for Obama it has always been generally accepted that a child is the race of his mother, not the sperm donor who is given credit for 3% of the child's ethnicity. Your agreement that Obama chose the name I'm glad you've seen an verified Obama's passport and driver's license, both of which of course would bear his current name, however the truth is that Barry Soetoro took on the name Barack Hussein Obama not the other way around. It has been historically documented that Obama in essence chose to be considered Black because everyone around him assumed he was because of his skin color (everyone around him, obviously all liberals so ergo all of them racists). Intelligent people would love to know how the above facts could not equally be applied to a person of any race, but yet to you they are racist. That sounds to me like a very racist comment for you to make.
What "rules" are you talking about?
I've never heard of your "generally accepted" rules before.
And the rest of your post has no factual basis either. If you're trying to make people still think he's not a US citizen, you're failing... and you're using the same identity based attacks that make people think a portion of those opposing Obama (that's YOU) are racist.
kurt – you're defending something that can't be defended. At BEST Obama is 50% White and 50% Black, which does not by any definition make him Black, so therefore it is impossible for anyone to be considered a racist even if they look him in the eye and says "I don't like people of your race". He's mulatto, deal with it, accept it. And as far as your fantasies about him being a U.S. citizen, where did that come from? Who said the discussion is about that? Just like the fact about him being of his mother's race, by the same circumstances he is the citizenship of his mother, why do you think otherwise? If you would be so kind, could you give one definitive FACT that Obama is a Black man and not at LEAST 50/50? Didn't think so.
Lets see how racist I am if Ben Carson runs for president.
I am a white man and I truly believe that the GOP are a bunch of lunatic old white men who can't stand the fact that they lost the last two federal elections and that a black man is in the White House. I also believe that these same out of touch Republicans would love to bring slavery back.
The converse is also true. There are many who support Obama simply because he's black, regardless of his ability or qualifications to perform the duty of POTUS. Just check the percenttage of African-American who voted for Mr. Obama over the last 2 elections.
It's not far off what other democrats who were not black got.
2012 – Obama got 93% of black voters
2008 – 95%
2004 – Kerry got 88%
2000 – Gore got 90%
1996 – Clinton got 84% (Perot pulled 7% in Clinton's two elections which explains the lower numbers)
1992 – 83%
1988 – Dukakis got 89%
1984 – Mondale got 91%
1980 – Carter got 83% (Southern Democrat, too close to the time of the dixiecrats)
1976 – Carter got 83%
The fact is the democrats are usually getting around 88-91% of the black vote. That ticked up slightly with a black candidate... but the fact african americans vote democrat is much more a factor of policy rather then racial identity... otherwise they wouldn't have gone so heavily democrat in elections where both candidates were white males.
I wish I had the time to counter all of the misinformation you put out! There is so much of it that it defies logic. For now I will counter this:
Here is an example of the misinformation you present:
"2012 – Obama got 93%of black voters"
true but and an absolute indicator of racism rather than issues.
"2008 – 95%"
true but what was the black vote for Hillary in the Democratic Nomination and what do you expect will that vote would be if there is another black candidate and she runs?
no black candidates _n/a
"2004 – Kerry got 88%
"2000 – Gore got 90%
"1996 – Clinton got 84% (Perot pulled 7% in Clinton's two elections which explains the lower numbers)"
wrong, Perot received 4%, Dole received 12%
"1992 – 83%
true but you failed to mention the dreaded Bush received 10% of the black vote, 3% more than Perot
1988 – Dukakis got 89%
1984 – Mondale got 91%"
This one takes the cake
"1980 – Carter got 83% (Southern Democrat, too close to the time of the dixiecrats)
1976 – Carter got 83%"
The Dixiecrats began and ended in 1948 and you presented it to be a factor in 76/80.
I wish I had time to provide counters to your misinformation
Obama may have dark skin but he is not an African American. He was raised in Indonesia. A true African American would not be doing what he is doing to the people in Chicago and other places where black American struggle. Spending $3.7 billion dollars on illegal immigrants is a clear indicator that he values non Americans over African Americans. Opposition to his policies is not based on his race, it is based on his seeming disdain of all things American even African Americans! He could spend that $3.7B helping kids in schools get a better eduction or making sure people here have enough to eat. There is no racism in opposing him, its love of America and all of our people of all colors that opposes his lack of leadership at the border.
Jimmy, are you sure he has not done anything for African Americans since he has been in office? What bills are tied up in Congress that would benefit African Americans? What executive orders has he instituted to help African Americans? And Jimmy, don't you think Congress just might have something to do about many of the stalled bills targeted for African Americans? The GOP controls the House of Representatives. But Jimmy, African Americans need to take responsibility for some of their own plight. How can you instill the importance of education in your children when you do not value it yourself? Education is education not matter what school it's taught in. If 75% of the African American parents stopped blaming someone else and instead tackled the issue of good parenting, the community would begin to see rapid improvement. It's not a money thing, it's a responsibility thing. Money will never fix the African American community issues, good parenting and civil responsibility will.
This is just stupid.
He's black. It's not due to his choice or how he was raised... it's because that's how society pegs him when they look at him. He talked about that in one of his books... how that even though he didn't particularly identify himself by race when he came back to the US, the people around him did (particularly when he left Hawaii) and he didn't really have a choice.
My son is black and my wife and I are not. He's not going to be viewed as a white child by anyone regardless of the fact he spent his childhood in a white family.
The fact he was in Indonesia for 4 years (ages 6-10) doesn't have anything to do with how society views his race and the fact he had to learn to live with that designation. Nobody views him as a pacific islander.
As a Republican conservative who believes that Obama has been the worst president to our nation in its history in both domestic and foreign policies, I disagree with your assessment. Your reference to Chicago and the struggles of black America is a liberal strategy to maintain power over the poor and uninformed. The same holds true for the illegals entering the United States. They will become a liberal voting block and the democrats can continue the unconscionable suppression a group of people to government dependency. I present truth to one of your statements with a modification. If we could spend 3.7 billion on helping the influx of (invited) illegals then we could have spent that money securing the border before they started arriving in mass. Also, his lack of leadership is in all phases of government.
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