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July 1st, 2014
11:20 AM ET

Why immigration reform won't happen

Talking immigration reform is good business for both Democrats and Republicans - which is why nothing ever gets done.


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S.E. Cupp: I know why immigration reform isn't getting done.

It’s a very dispiriting reason, but I know. Everyone seems to have an opinion about whether or not immigration reform can happen, and most of the opinions are reconciled around one answer: no.

But the dirty little secret about immigration reform is that there’s very little political incentive to actually do something because a broken immigration system, as appalling as it is, is good for business for both Republicans and Democrats.

Democrats get to campaign on calling republicans anti-immigrant, and republicans get to call out lesser republicans for being pro-amnesty.

If you think I’m kidding, here’s some proof. What is the one obstacle that both sides argue about when it comes to immigration reform?

A pathway to citizenship. Now if you poll illegal immigrants, their priority is not a pathway to citizenship, it’s legal status.

Many choose to work here and eventually want to return home. So why are we, republicans and democrats, arguing over this self-imposed obstacle that immigrants themselves aren't arguing about?

Politics, pure and simple.

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  1. ProtectAmericanJobs

    First of all they're Unauthorized Foreigners or Illegal Aliens and they're not just "undocumented immigrants". – They are intruders! – And based upon that truth, they have no constitutional rights in our country.

    We STILL need to Stop Unauthorized Foreigners from just flooding into our country!

    When are our frigging idiotic traitorous "leaders" ACTUALLY going to do something about this? – How many more years do they think that they can keep stalling for? – And yes – I'm Angry with Both Parties – As are most American Citizens right now!

    This has gotten completely out of control and President Obama's "Plan" is waiting for a "recommendation" by the end of summer and throwing $2-billion at the problem? – What the heck? – Can't he figure this out for himself? – This is just more empty talk and stupidity. – Why the hell do we need to wait until the end of the summer or need $2,000,000,000 dollars when we already have troops on the payroll? – It's a no-brainer, the first priority is to secure our southern border and our military should absolutely be deployed to shut the floodgates that are allowing thousands upon thousands of unauthorized illegal aliens to continue to pour into our country! We don't need a "blue-ribbon-committee" or any other BS to figure this out.

    The very first priority is to secure our border and then go from there.

    July 8, 2014 at 12:54 pm | Reply
    • James Cameron

      The demagogues that are using the immigration scheme to allow illegal aliens who are law violators to get advantages like amnesty to their crime against federal law, the same crime as the one commited by a tax evader or a swindler, not only doenst have to give legal benefits but has to punish the law-breakers the same way. I know that some demagoues like to gain votes by granting illegal aliens some rights, but is my belief that instead of that, they must help resolve the immigration backlog, spedite visas to legal aliens who follow the law to all the extent, help skilled workers get their visas thur the path of citizenship established by the law and kick out of the country all the wetbacks that come to this country mocking the system of law and imposing their bad customs to the American people. America cant be held responsible for all the bad things that happen in the world, and cant pay the dues of other goverments getting their poor and their malnourished. I am not against immigration, to the contrary, America is the land of the immigrant, but I am against the violation of the law established by the people.

      July 8, 2014 at 2:18 pm | Reply
      • ProtectAmericanJobs

        We need to Stop Unauthorized Foreigners from just Flooding into Our Country!

        When are our stinking idiotic traitorous "leaders" from both parties ACTUALLY going to do something about this? – How many more years do they think that they can keep stalling for? – And yes – I'm Angry with Both Parties – As are most American Citizens right now! – But, Obama could be the worst of them all.

        The American People really Need Leaders That Will Honor The Fact that They Are Elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to Represent the Interests of Those Citizens and The Country Itself and that They are NOT Elected By or To Represent Lobbyist, the Global Marketplace (NAFTA, WTO, TPP), Foreign Citizens or Illegal Aliens.

        Economic Fairness for the American People and the Real American Economy: It's called Tariffs, Tax Incentives for Repatriating Industries and American Jobs and Protecting Our Southern Border.

        Instead of spending $3.7-billion on illegals or bailing out banks – How about splitting up the $3.7-billion up between the millions of income-tax-paying American Citizens that are struggling to pay their mortgages, children's education loans, health-care insurance, etc.............

        Over the past several decades, all that our idiotic traitorous politicians from both parties have been doing is screwing the American People, by stalling, spending, removing protections and allowing illegal aliens to continue to pour in and American jobs and industry to pour out, and all while collecting their American tax-payer funded pay checks, benefits and whatever else they get on the side from their various lobbyist friends.

        The American People deserve leaders that will Honor The Fact that They Are Elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to Represent the Interests of Those Citizens and The Country Itself and that They are NOT Elected By or To Represent Lobbyist, the Global Marketplace (NAFTA, WTO, TPP), Foreign Citizens or Illegal Aliens.

        The American People need Loyal American Leaders who will stop selling us out to countries like Communist China, India and Mexico.

        The bottom line is that "Our Government" has to protect American jobs and domestic industry – If they do that, the rest will take care of itself.

        Bringing manufacturing back to the US not only gives jobs to the US citizens who would be working in those manufacturing facilities, but to the people that would be working in the businesses that would spring up all around them. This should also include the safe harvesting, production and distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for fuel from countries where they hate us. Let's keep that money and those jobs here in the US.

        The “Global Market Place” is not a level playing field! The whole idea of the tariffs is so we can pay our factory workers a decent wage and not be blown out by these other countries where they don’t play by the same rules. We may have to pay a bit more for products made here in the USA by US citizens, but at least we'll still have jobs and a future for our children.

        The lack of businesses and good jobs in the USA is what's really going to rob us, our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of the potential of a prosperous or even decent future.

        It's all happened because, over the last 25-years, our government has allowed our country's industries to get sucked out to countries like Communist China, India, Mexico, etc and allowed illegal aliens and H-1B foreigners to come into our country and take away tax-paying Americans jobs and drive down wages.

        It has all happened way too fast – Our government leaders should have put measures in place to make it slower, so that it wouldn't devastate our country, which has no chance when competing with other countries that don't play by the same rules or have pay scales that are even remotely close.

        That's where our government leaders have to step up and put some sensible measures and incentives in place to keep jobs here in the USA or the real economy and infrastructure of the country we love will be destroyed along with the future of the American people.

        Nowadays it's obviously not about being either lazy or uneducated as many try to profess, but about wages, expenses and regulations that are not even remotely close to the wages, expenses and regulations in our country.

        If more people would have listened to Ross Perot back in 1992, America wouldn't be in this mess.

        Regardless of what the Free-Traitors keep trying to sell us, we can see what's real. The American People need to just trust their own instincts, common sense and what they've seen actually going on all around them versus all of the nonsense that the Free-Traitors are still trying to sell us.

        The American people will need good jobs with health-care benefits in order to be able to pay for the services of those educated doctors, lawyers, college professors, etc. – It can't all be chiefs and no Indians. There is an equally important place for both of them in America.

        The American People need Loyal American Leaders who will start putting some sensible measures in place to stem the tide or this is going to continue to have a devastating effect on the United States of America and the American people.

        Economic Fairness for the American People and the Real American Economy: It's called Tariffs, Tax Incentives for Repatriating Industries and American Jobs and Protecting Our Southern Border.

        July 8, 2014 at 4:23 pm |
  2. MDR

    Miguel and Steve, your comments are laughable. You know why the people don't want Immigration reform. They don't want it because they are tired of seeing immigrants come to this country, not respecting the laws and wanting something given to them when there is a system in place to get that achieved. You don't like the system? Guess what? You don't have to like it. You just have to follow it. Otherwise, I'm sure the US is not the only country in the world that takes in immigrants.

    So as you see, it has nothing to do with white vs blacks and any other ethnicity. Saying that the only reason why the "poor migrant" is not accepted is bc the color of their skin is getting old and has been played too many times.

    Miguel, you say that those republicans will pay when the Hispanic nation goes to vote. Very nice to segregate yourself as the "Hispanic nation". Isn't the whole idea of coming to this country to integrate yourself o the very fiber of this country. And to be completely honest and objective, the only votes that republicans should be concerned with, should be from the section of the population that are allowed to vote. Right? Because we all know that not even legal residents have that option. In the end, the only citizens that want to vote for a candidate based on immigration reform, are those that have family members or relatives that are illegal immigrants. If that is the case I wouldn't want the vote from someone that wants their relatives rewarded for breaking the law.

    And just in case you are wondering, I'm not white. I'm 100% Hispanic, I came here when I was 16 years old and did it the right way. I didn't want, nor expected anything handed to me.

    July 7, 2014 at 7:54 pm | Reply
    • kurt

      I think you are incorrect about how people vote.

      I have some experience with the legal immigration system... and the fact is it's broken. The entire system was crafted years ago around european immigration (and even that was done in a discriminatory way... just discrimination against eastern european and italian immigrants rather then hispanics).

      I've also seen the type of racist behavior that the Republican anger at illegal immigration has caused. While they may be mad about illegal immigration, there is a sizeable portion of the GOP base that directs their anger against anyone who "looks" like an immigrant... which often means anyone who's latino. My sister in law is a US citizen and has been for a decade... but she speaks with an accent and gets loads of harassment from "anti-illegal" people in South Carolina.

      The GOP isn't going to win the hispanic community until they are okay with hispanics. That means not drumming up hate towards hispanics under the pretense of "fighting illegals". That may not be what they intend, but that's the consequences of the rhetoric they use... and those on the recieving end of that sort of hate from GOP supporters aren't going to forgive the GOP for creating it.

      60% of people in the US favor a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants... or "amnesty" if you prefer. Not 60% of hispanics... but 60% of registered VOTERS. To give you an example of how huge a majority that is, Ronald Reagan didn't even hit the 60% mark in the popular vote in 1984 against Mondale. And every year that percentage grows... the GOP is running out of time to change their stance on this and not lose a generation of voters as the democrats did when they embraced civil rights.

      July 8, 2014 at 8:52 am | Reply
      • MDR

        I'm sorry Kurt, but I find hard to believe that the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 was enacted with Eastern European I and Italian immigrants in mind. I have studied the Act (job requirement) and nothing that I read seemed to be targeting those groups or any groups for that matter. I have also studied immigration law, and the same can be said for the language used in those statutes.

        As a matter of fact, I don't if you have been able to take a look and compare the United States Immigration policies and laws to other countries, but it is well defined and the US already takes more than a fair amount of legal immigrants on a yearly basis.

        As far as your assessment of the GOP's relation with the Hispanic community......I don't know what you a re referring to. I would like to see examples in form of credible articles or audio and video, where GOP reps go at Hispanic categorizing them as illegal immigrants for the most part. Do I believe that there are racist and prejudice ppl in the GOP? Yes. The same as I believe that there are ppl of equal thinking in on the democratic side. I don't know what else you would like the republicans to do "repair" their relations with the Latino community? The last I checked, It was a Republican president that granted amnesty and a good chunk of illegal immigrants benefitted from it. Lets face it, Hispanics, or any other group for that matter, will side with the party that panders the most to them or that "feel their plight". It's that simple.

        As far as you figures of %60 of voters favoring reform-Well, obviously you and I do not run in the same circles nor watch the same polls. Just about everyone that I talk to, doesn't want it. The polls conducted shows the same. (Maybe you can include links to validate your claim) Even some legal migrants (LAPR's) and naturalized citizens don't want it either.

        I stand by my statement. The only people that want immigration reform are those that either benefit from it, or that have a relative, friend or love interest that is currently an illegal immigrant.

        July 9, 2014 at 1:03 am |
  3. George T Hibs

    It will not happen because it is just wrong to give amnesty and blanket immunity to law breakers. It is also wrong to give a preferential pathway to citizenship to Hispanics when so many have waited years on lists to LEGALLY immigrate to the US. No amnesty and no free rides for citizenship. BTW, we have a perfectly good set of immigration laws if we took care of our borders. If the people running across the Rio Grande were Taliban terrorists with WMD to unload on our country, you can bet Obama would plug the hole in a heartbeat. What a sk. _nk.

    July 7, 2014 at 6:53 pm | Reply
  4. ProtectAmericanJobs

    First of all they're unauthorized foreigners or illegal aliens and they're not just "undocumented immigrants".

    They are intruders!

    And based upon that truth, they have no constitutional rights in our country.

    July 7, 2014 at 3:10 pm | Reply
  5. edlf2014

    Why immigration reform won't happen? How about why illegal immigration reform won't happen.

    July 7, 2014 at 12:04 pm | Reply
  6. The GOP Solution

    The GOP Prayer/Mantra/Solution: Dear God...With your loving kindness, help us to turn all the Old, Sick, Poor, Non-white, Non-christian, Female, and Gay people into slaves. Then, with your guidance and compassion, we will whip them until they are Young, Healthy, Rich, White, Christian, Male, and Straight. Or until they are dead. God...Grant us the knowledge to then turn them into Soylent Green to feed the military during the next "unfunded/off-the-books" war. God...Give us the strength during our speeches to repeatedly yell........TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH!!!..........and........GET RID OF SS AND MEDICARE!!!
    In your name we prey (purposely misspelled, or is it?)........Amen

    July 7, 2014 at 11:17 am | Reply
  7. NYNJCT

    miguel r. serda, jr.
    those republican congressman who are against immigration will pay the price when and if all the Hispanic nation goes out and votes against them.
    =================================================================================================
    I hope it won't happen in American in my life. You should do some research that the immigration Acts Bill had been created by 4 Republican Senators + 4 Democratic ones.

    July 7, 2014 at 10:34 am | Reply
  8. Ramon F Herrera

    (18) Republicans Admit Racism Is Big Obstacle To Passing Immigration Reform

    “Part of it, I think — and I hate to say this, because these are my people — but I hate to say it, but it’s racial,” said the REPUBLICAN lawmaker, who remained anonymous. “If you go to town halls people say things like, ‘These people have different cultural customs than we do.’ And that’s code for race.”

    http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/01/30/3226951/immigration-gop-racism/

    July 7, 2014 at 9:28 am | Reply
  9. showaustin

    Why would an immigrant who is not a US citizen be listened to over the voters who are registered to vote? You say that the problem is with "Politics." Are you saying that our democratic system is the problem? Why do we vote for elected officials if they are not going to represent the voters? If the reason that immigration reform is in gridlock is because of we the voters, then who should decide for us?

    July 6, 2014 at 7:40 pm | Reply
  10. showaustin

    Immigrants who are not citizens don't vote in elections, so why should elected US officials listen to them over the voting from US citizens? You say the problem is in "Politics". Are you saying that the flaw is in our political democracy? It's the US population itself that has this process in gridlock? Who should we choose to solve these immigration problems, and how would they be chosen?

    July 6, 2014 at 7:08 pm | Reply
  11. Jim

    This government continues to try to GIVE AWAY our most precious right as Americans – Citizenship! We have no responsibility for these people, none. I say merely take them back across the border, be polite and tell them to get in line, fill out the proper forms and wait your turn. Let Mexico deal with the wait queues, the communication issues, the disease and the temporary housing. They created the problem by not stopping the influx at their own Southern border. This has to stop now

    July 6, 2014 at 10:09 am | Reply
  12. Jorge "LoneWolf"

    WoW!!!
    Very insightful!! I'm just overwhelmed and filled with so much information I had no idea about. One thing you are wrong is, why would illegals spend weeks travelling up Mexico facing persecution, rape, and possible death just to go back home someday? You might as well stay home and smoke week. Obviously, like all conservatives...you never left the US and have no clue about life outside the US. You are so smart, that you make Ann Coulter look smarter.

    July 6, 2014 at 1:04 am | Reply
  13. William Booth

    It's good business for a lot firms, primarily food processing. Tyson Foods, for example, would shut down without immigrant labor.

    July 5, 2014 at 6:32 pm | Reply
  14. Incremental reform

    Immigration laws could be improved right away if DC politicians aimed for incremental, targeted reforms rather than "comprehensive" reform. "Comprehensive" reform did not work in 1986 and it won't work now.

    Start with improved border security by itself, in a single bill, no amendments, attachments, conditions.

    July 5, 2014 at 4:23 pm | Reply
  15. ProtectAmericanJobs

    I'm sharing the following comment from someone that posts under the name of XDm9mm – This comment is just brimming with common sense and is right on the money.

    To all people SUPPORTING the ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION INVASION of The United States of America I say the following:

    I will wholeheartedly support your belief that the current invasion by illegal alien invaders is welcome on the following conditions.

    1 – YOU invite these people in YOUR homes at YOUR expense.

    2 – YOU HOUSE them at YOUR expense.

    3 – YOU FEED them at YOUR expense.

    4 – YOU CLOTHE them at YOUR expense.

    5 – YOU provide all necessary MEDICAL CARE at YOUR expense.

    6 – When additional schools need to be built and staff hired YOU receive the bill for those services for any above and beyond the local birth rate of US CITIZENS.

    7 – If at any time one of YOUR house guests break the law and need legal counsel in a court of law, YOU pay for those expenses WITHOUT and public assistance.

    8 – If at any time one of YOUR house guests need to be incarcerated due to breaking any of the laws of this country, YOU pay for those expenses WITHOUT public assistance.

    9 – At NO TIME will you receive ANY public assistance. You forfeit any and all eligibility for any housing assistance, food assistance, medical assistance, NO ADDITIONAL TAX exemptions beyond those for your own natural born children.

    YOU ASSUME FULL AND COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY FOR ANY ILLEGAL ALIEN YOU WELCOME INTO YOUR HOME.

    Agree with the above, and I’ll agree with your compassion.

    If however, you do NOT want to agree with the above….. DEPORT THEM ALL NOW from WHATEVER country they come from. It is immaterial if they came illegally from Europe, Asia, South or Latin America, ANYWHERE they came from, DEPORT THEM ALL NOW!

    July 5, 2014 at 12:07 pm | Reply
    • Is

      Is this what Jesus would do?

      July 8, 2014 at 11:26 am | Reply
      • ProtectAmericanJobs

        Nice try!

        The media just keeps putting up pictures of the children of unauthorized foreign intruders to try to push there propaganda and agenda. How transparent and obvious – How stupid do they really think that the American People are?

        FYI: Our Leaders are Elected By the Citizens of The United States of America to Represent the Interests of Those Citizens and The Country Itself and that They're NOT Elected By or To Represent Lobbyist, the Global Marketplace (WTO, NAFTA, TPP), Foreign Citizens or Illegal Aliens.

        For the last 25-years, our idiotic traitorous political "leaders" have been selling out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the incursion of illegal aliens (cheap labor) and the outsourcing floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide.

        When are our stinking idiotic traitorous "leaders" ACTUALLY going to do something about this? – How many more years do they think that they can keep stalling for? – And yes – I'm Angry with Both Parties – As are most American Citizens right now!

        We STILL need to Stop ILLEGAL immigration!

        The first priority is to secure our southern border and our military should absolutely be deployed to shut the floodgates that are allowing thousands upon thousands of unauthorized foreigners to continue to pour into our country!

        We should immediately start using our military to Start Keeping ILLEGAL Aliens Out. Bring our troops home from the mindless Middle East and deploy them on our southern border. Let's use our troops here in the USA to Protect Our Country from the Incursion of Illegal Aliens here at Home, instead of keeping them in the Middle East, which is just going to continue to be a never ending region of stupidity and violence. We should also start hiring more of our unemployed veterans as additional border patrol officers, ICE and INS agents. Cause Lord knows, we need to do a better job of protecting our southern border and getting control of our illegal alien problem.

        Economic Fairness for the American People and the Real American Economy: It's called Tariffs, Tax Incentives for Repatriating Industries and American Jobs and Protecting Our Southern Border.

        The very first priority is to secure our border and then go from there.

        July 8, 2014 at 4:16 pm |
      • ProtectAmericanJobs

        Nice try!

        The media just keeps putting up pictures of the children of unauthorized foreign intruders to try to push their propaganda and agenda. How transparent and obvious – How stupid do they really think that the American People are?

        FYI: Our Leaders are Elected By the Citizens of The United States of America to Represent the Interests of Those Citizens and The Country Itself and that They're NOT Elected By or To Represent Lobbyist, the Global Marketplace (WTO, NAFTA, TPP), Foreign Citizens or Illegal Aliens.

        July 8, 2014 at 4:18 pm |
  16. OnTheRoad

    I have a question. They keep talking about immigration reform. Yet, to date, I have not actually heard what they mean by this term. We have immigration laws now (they are not being enforced). So, what new laws are they wanting. Some have as much as said that they want no borders at all.

    July 5, 2014 at 10:30 am | Reply
  17. CALIFORNIA

    Obama's attitude just guaranteed congress will NOT bow to the dictators will.

    July 5, 2014 at 1:47 am | Reply
  18. James

    I just finished "Green Card Soldier" and it was a great light read full of Patriotism and Diversity. As a guy who just finished serving 6 years in the Marine Corps infantry I served with a few guys like this and couldn't be prouder to add them as Americans citizens

    July 4, 2014 at 7:34 pm | Reply
    • MDR

      James, I haven't read the book you mention. I'm sure the main character in the book is a person that evokes respect and patriotism. I served ten years in the US Army and I agree that there are immigrants that love the US and yearn to do something for the country that took them in. However, they are more the exception rather than the rule.

      July 7, 2014 at 10:23 pm | Reply
  19. Michael Church

    Gee, the reason we have so many illegals in this country and Mexico has no olympic team is because anyone who can run, jump and swimis already across the border......just a good joke. Now, seriously...the border and immigration reform goes all the way back to the Louisiana purchase...and the land grabs uncle stupid made. It wasn't to happen then, and it will not happen now. Treaty violations,and money to be made through illegal activities such as drug running and human smuggeling are the reason the border willnever close. And, all that cheap labor also keeps the wave of disgusting humanity crossing right on over. I mean who wants to get their hands dirty when we can pay Manuel L'abor $1.50 per hour Vs. $10.00...do the math. No, wait..Americans cannot add 2+2...but that is another story

    July 4, 2014 at 2:09 am | Reply
  20. Bigmamacornbread

    LAST 45 YRS THEY HAVE BEEN UNFIT TO RUN THIS COUNTRY..DOWN HILL.....WITH FIRE UNDERWEAER

    July 3, 2014 at 7:44 pm | Reply
  21. Bigmamacornbread

    SPEAK WITH AN EDUCATED MOUTH BUT YOU ALL BEHAVE ..RESPOND ...ACT...TO THIS SICKENING ACT THAT HAS CITIZENS DEVASTATED.. WE CAN NOT TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES IN THE USA...BECAUSE YOU ALL ALLOWED THIS CALAMITY TO OCCUR..YOU .SHOULD BE ALL FIRED AND HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR DESTROYING US ...NO RESPECT AND NO CHANGE

    July 3, 2014 at 7:41 pm | Reply
  22. Bigmamacornbread

    POLITICIANS GETTING PAID TO ASSIST IN ACTS OF TERRORISM WHILE SPEAKING WITH A HARVARD EDUCATION AS TO WHY IT SHOULD BE THIS WAY...HUMANITARIAN ...NO SIR ...AN ACT OF INHUMANITY INFLICTED ON THE CITIZENS.....YOU CAN NOT BE WRONG AND STRONG....YOUR HUMANITARIAN EXCUSE IS SICKENING...YOUR CITIZENS ARE DESTROYED.

    July 3, 2014 at 7:35 pm | Reply
  23. Bigmamacornbread

    I REMEMBER WHEN WHITE MEN HAD JOBS..DRIVING THE MOBILE GAS TANKS..BUS DRIVERS...MAIL MEN...NOW IT IS SO MUCH COCA IN THE USA FROM THE INNOCENT ILLEGALS THAT ARE ESCAPING VIOLENCE IN THERE COUNTRY....THYE TOOK THEIR HOMES..AND THE JOBS SO THEY CAN SHOW WHERE THEY ARE GETTING MONEY...LEARN INSURANCE FRAUD AND ALL SORTS OF NEW TRICKS TO HELP THE ACT OF TERRORISM ...THAIS IS THE " AMERICAN DREAM"..................IT IS AN AMERICAN NIGHTMARE

    July 3, 2014 at 7:32 pm | Reply
  24. Bigmamacornbread

    TO ENTER THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY IS A CRIME...IT IS AN ACT OF TERRORISM TO TAKE SOMEONES SPOT THAT HAS ACTUALLY APPLIED FOR LEGAL STATUS...OUR STATE LOOKS LIKE MEXICO .EL SALVADORE..AND EVERY OTHER GANG INFESTED TERRITORY OUTSIDE OF THE USA ....IT IS UNFAIR TO HAVE ALLOWED THIS ACT OF TERRORISM INVADE THIS COUNTRY FOR THE LAST 50 YRS A FESTERING GANG INFESTED DUMP ...I HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO RESPECT ESPECIALLY SINCE 1980..GOV LET THESE POOR PEOPLE ESCAPING DRUG CARTEL VIOLENCE LIVE NEXT DOOR TO YOU..NOT HUMANITARIAN AT ALL ..OUT OF CONTROL HUMANE DISASTER...CRIME...FORGET A THOUSAND A WEEK...MILLIONS IN EVERY STATE...HAVING BABIES DAILY...YOU ALL ALLOWED IT TO CONTINUE....NOTHING WILL CHANGE...I REMEMBER WHEN CITIZENS HAD JOBS...NOW BORDER BABIES/ADULTS ANYONE BORN IN THE USA FROM ILLEGAL PARENTS THEY ARE THE CHOSEN ONES

    July 3, 2014 at 7:25 pm | Reply
  25. Bigmamacornbread

    Sad state of affairs.. the citizens of the good old U.S. have been sold out traded left to die..I would like a "Class Action Law Suit" to be filed on behalf of the citizens. It is a crime to enter this Country without applying for status. Coca is what has been flooding our streets since 1976 at an alarming rate. I have seen coca transactions in front of pharmacy's .. in my area, bags of white powder from one illegal to another ...they have also taken all of the jobs..yo hablo no espanol..forget a thousand illegals a week...WHAT ABOUT THE MILLIONS THAT HAVE MADE OUR STATE EL SALVADORE MEXICO..GANGS DRUGS I HOPE THEY MARRY ALL OF THESE SO CALLED POLITICIANS DAUGHTERS AND SONS...GOV. ALLOWED THIS ACT OF TERRORISM IN THE 70'S THEY WANT THE LATINA WOMEN NOT THE MEN...NO OTHER CULTURE IS ALLOWED THIS RIGHT OF PASSAGE ...COME HAVE A BABY AND YOU ARE ALL AMERICANS ...SO THEY DID....ACTUALLY TO HAVE A BABY IN THIS USA ILLEGAL SHOULD NOT NOT MAKE YOUR BABY A CITIZEN ...OUR STATE LOOKS LIKE A GANG INFESTED PART OF SOUTH AMERICA.....I HAVE NO FAITH IN THIS GOV. .

    July 3, 2014 at 7:14 pm | Reply
  26. Carol Abe

    Immigration reform can not even start to get down until our boarders are first secure.

    July 3, 2014 at 3:57 pm | Reply
  27. david saint

    lol they wont ever do anything until they have full power in all 3 branches..that way they can prevent them from ever becoming democratic voters who will likely side with their opponents. aka they are too scared to act and upset their base.

    July 3, 2014 at 12:31 pm | Reply
  28. James Cameron

    Immigration reform has to fix the visa backlogs that are always a hassle to the work visa petitioners. Before granting any right to people that crossed the border ignoring and pissing off our laws, we must first help the visa applicants like the HB1's and so on. I do not agree with others that talk like if the Hispanic "nation" as a whole will agree giving path to citizenship to lawbreakers.

    July 3, 2014 at 11:35 am | Reply
  29. James Cameron

    It wont happen because the country has much worst problems to take care before this issue. Obama simply is not fit for the post and he will not be able to do anything to get the country in better shape. We have to wait for Obama to go so the new president, probably Republican will see what to do in this matter. Besides, I do not agree with an amnesty to illegal immigrants because before that there are lots of people that entered the US with working visas that are in quotas to get permanent resident so is absolutely absurd to give amnesty and residency to Illegal immigrants before solving the backlogs at the immigration office with HB1 and so many other visa holders that respected the law to enter this country. An amnesty to illegal aliens have to came together with an amnesty to Tax Evaders, to Racketeering suspects and so on. An illegal alien is a person that disrespected the Law and crossed the border knowing that was against the law. In the case of Children they have to be sent back to their countries right away. The US has the means to repatriate all this children, simply that.

    July 3, 2014 at 11:27 am | Reply
  30. Shawn McFadden

    I'll admit this a difficult subject to take on. Reason being, you want immigrants to come to the country legally, but at the same time you don't want to create a "Fortress-Mentality" when it comes to securing the border. This would also interfere with the flow of commerce coming into and leaving the U.S. thru Mexico and Canada. And of course both sides have their own adgenda when it comes to this as well.

    July 3, 2014 at 7:59 am | Reply
  31. Murray

    That was nicely said, and it's probably the first time I've read it articulated so well.

    July 2, 2014 at 6:42 pm | Reply
  32. Mason

    Steve

    It won't happen because there's an election in November and members of the house mainly Republicans are from Gerrymandered districts were there voting population is 99% white angry males that want their country back from the black guy in the White House and they hate Hispanics. That's why immigration is a no go.
    ++++++++++++++++++
    That is a lot of erroneous information in a few sentences. First of all there are no 99% white male voting districts?? That's not even possible. Second of all Texas has a massive Hispanic population already and if you hated them Texas would not be the place to live. There are probably some racists like everywhere else but most of them have died by now. Try to speak truthfully – goodness.

    July 2, 2014 at 6:14 pm | Reply
  33. Mason

    Enforce the laws and our border and something might happen. I grew up on a ranch on the Texas border and back then we would give water and assist with people passing through but its different now. That was manageable and the people were nice. Now its down right scary. Ranchers have to worry about carrying a gun everywhere they go and are constantly on guard. The smugglers tear up fences and make threats. I am expecting some violence at some point to boil over. I speak Spanish and love the people and would support sensible reforms but our representatives need to visit our southern border. This is completely different from years ago.

    July 2, 2014 at 5:54 pm | Reply
  34. Amk11bpg

    As soon as Obama said in his State of the Union Speech that he wanted an Immigration reform bill by the end of the year. The GOP would call off submitting their Bill. That they had recently announced ready to be submitted to committee. If Obama says day GOP says night no matter the cost to the country. They are owned by the 1% wealthiest an they can afford to watch the rest of the country pay the price. I don't like Obama however the GOP has failed to think of what the Democrats may do if there is ever another Republican President. As the Houses of Congress have been never held for long by just one party in Majority of both. It is sorta of the people's way of enforcing a checks an balance.

    July 2, 2014 at 4:20 pm | Reply
  35. jboh

    There won't be reform because the TEA/GOP puppetmasters want cheap illegal labor to drive down the wages of American workers. There have been 3 local incidents of illegals working in small towns no one in Guatamala/El Salvadore ever heard of. American companies routinely advertise in Mexico for workers who are then brought here on company chartered busses. Many of these companies have been caught with dozens of employees with the same Soc. Sec number. What do these companies do with the Soc. Sec./fed withholding taxes they deduct from illegal workers' paychecks? Donate it to Crossroads GPS to campaign against reform?

    July 2, 2014 at 12:33 pm | Reply
  36. Kellie Senset

    The worst of it is that our salary has never been so low because it`s easier to use immigrants cause they are ready to work for less money. Most of them don`t like both America and their native country. So, they would never assimilate. They made their diasporas, live here and get the same rights.

    July 2, 2014 at 12:24 pm | Reply
  37. Clugo9305

    It will not happen because it is big bucks for US. Yes, there would be change but change is necessary. Things don't always stay the same and when God wants to change things it will happen. Who can go against that? He will use whom he wants and at the time that he chooses. The Almighty gives it to whom He wants to!

    July 2, 2014 at 11:11 am | Reply
  38. kurt

    The problem is that the GOP base views legal status as amnesty as well.

    The base believes:

    1. They broke the law coming to the US.
    2. They should be punished based on the law.
    3. Any failure to punish is amnesty.

    While the GOP would do a bit better with latinos if they could differentiate citizenship from legal status and be in favor of the latter while against the former, saying that's the sticking point is simply incorrect. The sticking point as imposed by their base is "Amnesty"... and anything less then deportation and a ban on returning to the US is viewed as amnesty by the base.

    July 2, 2014 at 10:35 am | Reply
  39. j.v.hodgson

    Dear blog host.
    To say just politics ignores the consequence of even though immigrant want legal status the difference comes as we all know in voting rights, and how many families thru various ( laws) reasons have differing currently or long term status already. That's not just politically politically important to the different Pol parties but also to of soon to become citizens. what is also outside the politics therefore is
    My guess is very few want as you suggest to go home that's not the history.
    Also there are significant legal penalties ( in criminal law and some misdemeanors and civil law breaches that apply to " legal status immigrants" that cannot be used against citizens, one of which is deportation amongst other.
    Sorry while you solution sounds nice it is regrettably somewhat trite.
    Regards,
    Hodgson.

    July 2, 2014 at 3:28 am | Reply
  40. carfan55

    To 'Steve" – Excellent use of the English language – NOT!

    July 1, 2014 at 9:37 pm | Reply
  41. ProtectAmericanJobs

    Over the last 2-3 decades, our idiotic traitorous political "leaders" from both parties have been selling out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the incursion of illegal aliens (cheap labor) and the "outsourcing" floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide.

    July 1, 2014 at 6:02 pm | Reply
  42. ProtectAmericanJobs

    It better happen or Americans citizens going to get even more angry!

    When are our frigging idiotic "leaders" going to do something about this? – How many more years do they think that they can keep stalling for? – And yes – I'm Angry with both parties – As are most American Citizens right now!

    We STILL need to Stop ILLEGAL immigration! They're not just doing jobs that Americans don't want. (And I'm not talking about migrant workers, which is obviously not the problem) Do they pay state and federal income taxes? Don't get me wrong many of these people work hard, but are a drain on the system if they don't pay income taxes, have healthcare coverage, learn the language or get paid wages that are in line with their American counterparts. We all know that the health care provided to uninsured illegals here in the states is being averaged into our hospital costs and our insurance premiums, which have PROPORTIONATELY increased along with illegal immigration over the last 20 years? But somehow both parties keep ignoring this. These costs are also being passed along to Medicaid and Medicare, which means that not only are they increasing our insurance premiums, but that we're paying for them again with our tax dollars. Our tax dollars and insurance premiums should not be used to recoup the cost of healthcare given to illegal aliens, who shouldn't even be here in our country in the first place.

    Just look around and you'll see who's doing 90% of the residential renovations, construction and property maintenance jobs. That's certainly what we're seeing in the northeast. These are not just jobs that Americans don't want.

    The hiring of cheap illegal labor causes a chain reaction. The contractors who hire cheap, uninsured, non-income-taxpaying, ILLEGAL aliens undercut the contractors who hire US Citizens or Legal immigrants. Even if the contractor wants to continue to employ US Citizens or Legal tax-paying immigrants, they end up replacing their Legal employees with illegals just to be able to get the work. Unfortunately unions and the old "that's not my job" union attitudes here in the USA have also contributed to this problem.

    Also when these Non-income-tax-paying illegal Aliens take American Citizens jobs they also are taking away the income tax revenue that those working American Citizens would be providing to our government. In addition, the American Citizens who have their jobs taken away by these Illegal Aliens then have to be paid unemployment and usually have no healthcare insurance either because they can't afford COBRA, which adds even more to our deficit and further increases our healthcare costs.

    Over the last 2-3 decades, our idiotic traitorous political "leaders" have been selling out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the incursion of illegal aliens (cheap labor) and the "outsourcing" floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide.

    I run a business that does it the right way and employs 20 US Citizens and 1 Legal Immigrant and I believe that the use of Workplace Raids is a perfectly realistic way to put a stop to this BS. Plus we should publish the results of these workplace raids and fines to the public, so American Citizens and customers could see which companies are employing illegals.

    Let's get the good productive illegal immigrants into the system and paying federal and state income tax or get them out and NOT Let Any More Come In unless they come in as Legal Immigrants. Make them apply for legal visas and or U.S. citizenship and if they don't, then get them out. If they get rejected get them out or give them one quick appeal and if they still get rejected, then get them out. And let's send the bad ILLEGAL Aliens back to where they came in and let's STOP ANYMORE ILLEGAL ALIENS from getting in.

    Any Illegal Aliens that are already in our jails, for crimes that they have committed in our country, should stay in our prisons until they have severed their sentences and then be deported immediately upon their release from prison.

    We should start using our military to Start Keeping ILLEGAL Aliens Out. Bring our troops home from the mindless Middle East and deploy them on our southern border. Let's use our troops here in the USA to Protect Our Country from the Incursion of Illegal Aliens here at Home, instead of keeping them in the Middle East, which is just going to continue to be a never ending region of stupidity and violence. Hey – How about hiring some of our unemployed veterans as additional border patrol officers, ICE and INS agents? Cause Lord knows, we need to do a better job of protecting our southern border and getting control of our illegal alien problem.

    ps: Most illegal aliens are paid off the books and if they're employer says that they're deducting income tax they're lying. And the few that are being paid on the books, using fake IDs, claim a huge number of dependents, etc................ And could you or I get away with not filling income tax returns? And what about the ballsy ones that do file and claim a ridiculous amount of deductions to get big refunds. There are even sleazy accounts that specialize in helping them game the system.

    And why is it that both parties are still afraid to say anything about the affect that illegal aliens are having on our healthcare costs and insurance premiums?

    The American People need Our Leaders to start remembering that they are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself and that They are NOT Elected By or To Represent Lobbyist, Foreign Citizens, the Global Marketplace (WTO, NAFTA, TPP) or Illegal Aliens.

    Wouldn't we be better off if Our Elected Leaders Started Working Together as AMERICANS for AMERICANS and AMERICA, instead of just bickering, stalling and posturing for the next election as democrats and republicans!

    July 1, 2014 at 5:27 pm | Reply
    • ProtectAmericanJobs

      It better happen or Americans citizens are going to get even more angry!

      When are our frigging idiotic "leaders" going to do something about this? – How many more years do they think that they can keep stalling for? – And yes – I'm Angry with both parties – As are most American Citizens right now!

      We STILL need to Stop ILLEGAL immigration! They're not just doing jobs that Americans don't want. (And I'm not talking about migrant workers, which is obviously not the problem) Do they pay state and federal income taxes? Don't get me wrong many of these people work hard, but are a drain on the system if they don't pay income taxes, have healthcare coverage, learn the language or get paid wages that are in line with their American counterparts. We all know that the health care provided to uninsured illegals here in the states is being averaged into our hospital costs and our insurance premiums, which have PROPORTIONATELY increased along with illegal immigration over the last 20 years? But somehow both parties keep ignoring this. These costs are also being passed along to Medicaid and Medicare, which means that not only are they increasing our insurance premiums, but that we're paying for them again with our tax dollars. Our tax dollars and insurance premiums should not be used to recoup the cost of healthcare given to illegal aliens, who shouldn't even be here in our country in the first place.

      Just look around and you'll see who's doing 90% of the residential renovations, construction and property maintenance jobs. That's certainly what we're seeing in the northeast. These are not just jobs that Americans don't want.

      The hiring of cheap illegal labor causes a chain reaction. The contractors who hire cheap, uninsured, non-income-taxpaying, ILLEGAL aliens undercut the contractors who hire US Citizens or Legal immigrants. Even if the contractor wants to continue to employ US Citizens or Legal tax-paying immigrants, they end up replacing their Legal employees with illegals just to be able to get the work. Unfortunately unions and the old "that's not my job" union attitudes here in the USA have also contributed to this problem.

      Also when these Non-income-tax-paying illegal Aliens take American Citizens jobs they also are taking away the income tax revenue that those working American Citizens would be providing to our government. In addition, the American Citizens who have their jobs taken away by these Illegal Aliens then have to be paid unemployment and usually have no healthcare insurance either because they can't afford COBRA, which adds even more to our deficit and further increases our healthcare costs.

      Over the last 2-3 decades, our idiotic traitorous political "leaders" have been selling out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the incursion of illegal aliens (cheap labor) and the "outsourcing" floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide.

      I run a business that does it the right way and employs 20 US Citizens and 1 Legal Immigrant and I believe that the use of Workplace Raids is a perfectly realistic way to put a stop to this BS. Plus we should publish the results of these workplace raids and fines to the public, so American Citizens and customers could see which companies are employing illegals.

      Let's get the good productive illegal immigrants into the system and paying federal and state income tax or get them out and NOT Let Any More Come In unless they come in as Legal Immigrants. Make them apply for legal visas and or U.S. citizenship and if they don't, then get them out. If they get rejected get them out or give them one quick appeal and if they still get rejected, then get them out. And let's send the bad ILLEGAL Aliens back to where they came in and let's STOP ANYMORE ILLEGAL ALIENS from getting in.

      Any Illegal Aliens that are already in our jails, for crimes that they have committed in our country, should stay in our prisons until they have severed their sentences and then be deported immediately upon their release from prison.

      We should start using our military to Start Keeping ILLEGAL Aliens Out. Bring our troops home from the mindless Middle East and deploy them on our southern border. Let's use our troops here in the USA to Protect Our Country from the Incursion of Illegal Aliens here at Home, instead of keeping them in the Middle East, which is just going to continue to be a never ending region of stupidity and violence. Hey – How about hiring some of our unemployed veterans as additional border patrol officers, ICE and INS agents? Cause Lord knows, we need to do a better job of protecting our southern border and getting control of our illegal alien problem.

      ps: Most illegal aliens are paid off the books and if they're employer says that they're deducting income tax they're lying. And the few that are being paid on the books, using fake IDs, claim a huge number of dependents, etc................ And could you or I get away with not filling income tax returns? And what about the ballsy ones that do file and claim a ridiculous amount of deductions to get big refunds. There are even sleazy accounts that specialize in helping them game the system.

      And why is it that both parties are still afraid to say anything about the affect that illegal aliens are having on our healthcare costs and insurance premiums?

      The American People need Our Leaders to start remembering that they are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself and that They are NOT Elected By or To Represent Lobbyist, Foreign Citizens, the Global Marketplace (WTO, NAFTA, TPP) or Illegal Aliens.

      Wouldn't it be More Productive if Our Elected Leaders Started Working Together as AMERICANS for AMERICANS and AMERICA, instead of just bickering, stalling and posturing for the next election as democrats and republicans/tea-whatevers! The American People have had it with this unproductive BS! The way that both parties having been operating for years just stinks! Neither party has really been looking out for the best interests of the US Citizens who elect them and who they're supposed to represent.

      July 1, 2014 at 5:30 pm | Reply
    • James Cameron

      No amnesty for Illegal aliens. No Path to citizenship to illegal aliens before they give amnesty to all small law breakers that are currently doing time for smaller things than violation of federal law. If you trespass a lawn without the owners permission you go to jail for trespassing, if you trespass the US MEXICO border you should be free as a bird and for some become even a hero? I understand this small talk short minded politicos and politicos wannabes that talk and talk for this wrongful amnesty for illegals, but the truth is that America has a lot of things to fix before this immigration amnesty.

      July 7, 2014 at 10:19 pm | Reply
  43. Gunderson

    Aw, Um,
    First of all we already have Immigration Laws. Second of all the American people are fed up with the Liberals doing every dance in the book trying to sell Amnesty. They tried to pass a bill just recently. It was defeated, soundly. Anyone that wants to, can apply for Citizenship, just not from American Soil. Not all Hispanic Citizens support Amnesty. Over a million new citizens a year using current law. No need to change, except for those that don't want to go thru the laws as now written. I don't care if you have been here 20 years. If you want to become a U.S. Citizen. Go home and put in your application. End of Conversation.

    July 1, 2014 at 1:29 pm | Reply
  44. CALIFORNIA

    Because we have a dictator in the White House

    July 1, 2014 at 1:18 pm | Reply
  45. Max

    Politics... No shit.

    July 1, 2014 at 12:52 pm | Reply
  46. DRJJ

    Why would anyone want to immigrate to the US now, each of us owes over $50,000 just for the National debt-approaching $18 Trillion now!

    July 1, 2014 at 12:23 pm | Reply
    • Max

      Money doesn't really exist anymore. We are a nation of debt, and law. Working indefinitely pretty much.

      July 1, 2014 at 1:03 pm | Reply
    • kurt

      Mainly because each of us doesn't owe 50,000 dollars.

      If you want to assign the national debt to citizens, you have to at least look at how our tax system works. The fact is that the top tax rates are based on how much you earn. Those who earn more pay more taxes (in theory at least).

      So when it comes down to it, those at the top of the income chart "own" a lot more of the debt then those at the bottom... because they earn a lot more money. The top 1% of income earners have something like 40% of the wealth in the US... and thus (based on current tax policy) own 40% of the debt. It doesn't get paid evenly... it gets paid by taxes which are proportional based on the amount of income you earn (and would be even with a flat tax rate).

      As to why they'd come.... well it's because many would be making less than a dollar an hour in their home country and can make 8-10 dollars an hour here. Even if cost of living is double or triple... they have a strong economic reason to want to come here.

      July 7, 2014 at 8:35 am | Reply
  47. Steve

    It won't happen because there's an election in November and members of the house mainly Republicans are from Gerrymandered districts were there voting population is 99% white angry males that want their country back from the black guy in the White House and they hate Hispanics. That's why immigration is a no go.

    July 1, 2014 at 12:00 pm | Reply
    • Mike

      Steve, Obama could have easily pushed immigration reform through while the Dems held control of both the House and Senate from 2008-2010 but chose not to. If the president wanted reform he would start by doing his job and securing the border FIRST! Once we are able to control the border then and only then can we figure out what to do with those that are already here. I believe most Americans would support some sort of legal status to non criminals but NEVER citizenship! If illegals want citizenship they have to earn it by following the laws like everybody else. No special path to citizenship!

      July 1, 2014 at 12:50 pm | Reply
    • carfan55

      excellent command of the English language – NOT!

      July 1, 2014 at 9:35 pm | Reply
  48. miguel r. serda, jr.

    those republican congressman who are against immigration will pay the price when and if all the Hispanic nation goes out and votes against them.

    July 1, 2014 at 11:28 am | Reply
    • wow

      Sure...just carpet bomb the US with 11 million illegals...sure that will fix those bad Republicans...
      PS...we all get screwed if it happens cause in case you don't know it, the country is already going bankrupt!!!!!

      July 1, 2014 at 1:00 pm | Reply
    • jonquil123

      "Hispanic nation"? Are you insane?

      Even by 2063, the Hispanic population in America, won't be more than 30%. There is no place, in this country for threatening, racial supremacists. You will be politically quarantined from The General Population and ostracized by voters. it already happened, today, in California.

      If you want to be part of a "Hispanic Nation", then go move to one.

      July 1, 2014 at 9:51 pm | Reply

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