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Is Obamacare a success?
March 31st, 2014
01:05 PM ET

Is Obamacare a success?

It’s Obamacare D-Day: The last day of open enrollment for health insurance without having to pay a penalty.

The White House came up one million short of their original goal of 7 million signups, but has still been touting the numbers as a success.

Many critics beg to differ that the numbers have much meaning, as the White House hasn’t given out many details as to exactly who these 6 million people are and how many have paid their premiums.

One Republican senator, John Barrasso of Wyoming, said that he doesn’t even believe the numbers and thinks the White House is “cooking the books.”

We want you to weigh in on today's Fireback question: Now that more than 6 million people have enrolled in Obamacare, do you consider it a success?

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UPDATE:  Thank you to everyone who joined the conversation! Here are some highlights from both sides of the debate.

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  1. Jon Armes

    I posted a coment Its very easy If people are not happy then most of those who are not are probably not Christian and may be a little racist and just have a little hatred in their heart. With so many people being helped I am happy for my brothers and sisters and for our country that people are being helped I'am a Christian and so I'am very pleased. So far it looks like it won't cost more and will save lives and help so many which is to me whats most important saving human beings lives.

    April 22, 2014 at 9:51 am | Reply
  2. XSC

    Yes, Very successful.

    April 11, 2014 at 10:29 pm | Reply
  3. countingdown

    From Fireback:
    1064 replys at time of this comment posting.
    Question:
    "Now that more than 6 million have enrolled in Obamacare, do you consider it a success?"
    28% yes (298) / 72% no (766), 3.5 to 1
    Very telling!

    April 4, 2014 at 4:54 pm | Reply
    • countingdown

      Correction: 2.5 to 1, still very telling!

      April 4, 2014 at 9:38 pm | Reply
  4. Reggie53

    What about the 5 – 6 million people who lost their coverage? If you net the two out, only 1.1 – 2.1 actually signed up. So do you think that this is a success? Well, we have lowered our standards if we call this a success. We have truly lowered our standards having Obama as our president!!!!!!!!!!!!

    April 3, 2014 at 2:07 pm | Reply
    • Debunked

      Your lies have already been debunked. Try to keep up.

      April 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm | Reply
  5. Eagle0541

    Let's see. Obama says 50 million uninsured. Somewhere around 5 million had coverage and lost it and had to buy a new policy. If Obama is not lying', which he probably is, that means there are now "only" (sarc) 47.9 million still uninsured. Wow! Forward!........and Obama is celebrating? LMAO!

    April 3, 2014 at 1:18 pm | Reply
    • Debunked

      Your lies have been debunked. Try to keep up.

      April 4, 2014 at 3:10 pm | Reply
  6. tSCHRNY WOLF

    the free medical insurance is a dream come true for 97% of Americans. The rich elite protests out of guilt, ambition, ruthlessness and frustration :) That radical conservative gang now has to return to the IRS, the billions it stole :) just great :)
    WHAT GOES AROUND, GETS AROUND :))))))))))))))))))

    April 2, 2014 at 2:44 pm | Reply
    • Joe Fletcher

      What planet are you from? 97% of Americans will not have free health insurance. Most will still have to pay for their insurance, and many will have to pay substantially more in premiums while have higher deductibles.

      April 3, 2014 at 1:52 pm | Reply
  7. Maria Rivera-Carvalho

    Obamacare: Just another Republican weapon that turns on them. GOPers must stop believing their own legends and give reality a chance.

    April 1, 2014 at 11:23 pm | Reply
    • Smitty

      So u believe Obumbles number of enrollees ??? Scary. Hows the job pivot, remem shovel ready??? Ill close gitmo???
      Ben ghazi was a video??? How can any one with a half of brain believe anything out of the BIGGEST LIAR OF THE YEAR mouth ????

      April 2, 2014 at 9:45 pm | Reply
      • Nobody

        I believe Obama more than I believe Faux News and YOU.

        April 3, 2014 at 8:41 am |
  8. Sally Snyder

    Here is an article that looks at a key reason why health care in America is unaffordable:



    http://viableopposition.blogspot.ca/2014/03/the-high-cost-of-hospital-care-in.html



    America's for profit health care system is enriching one very small group of people.

    April 1, 2014 at 5:55 pm | Reply
  9. GOP speech writer

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    April 1, 2014 at 5:03 pm | Reply
  10. Every notice

    That when a republican blasts Obamacare, they never post a solution.

    April 1, 2014 at 4:41 pm | Reply
    • Smitty

      Bull, they have suggested, trying diff methods in inner cities, rural areas, diff income levels etc. However Reid and Obumbles wont even look. They continue to surround themselves with a$$ clowns so Obumbles can be the smartest kid in the room. Please for everyones sake wake up.

      April 2, 2014 at 9:48 pm | Reply
      • Please

        Please post the GOP suggestions.

        April 3, 2014 at 8:39 am |
  11. Virginia Duffield

    Too early to tell. Those who could not get insurance before and can now will say yes. When Medicare first started, some docs and hospitals would not accept it, but after they looked at empty waiting rooms for a time, most started accepting it. People have lost insurance, but most have been able, or could if they have tried, replace it with something similar or even better. I've got a grandfathered plan that is not that great, but in 2 years I'll be on Medicare so I'll just avoid the doctor until then.

    April 1, 2014 at 2:22 pm | Reply
    • Smitty

      It was designed to help 31 million people in the USA. Its worked so well that number is now 41 mill, lower income people don't have the cash to support Obumbles gov take over. Its sad that you cannot see that

      April 2, 2014 at 9:50 pm | Reply
      • Smitty buffoon

        You moron. It's NOT a gov't takeover. The PRIVATE insurance companies still control what they charge subscribers. That's why it's so expensive.

        April 3, 2014 at 8:44 am |
      • Tony

        Gee, it hasn't even fully gone into effect and it hasn't solved world hunger and cured cancer yet? Must be a bad law.

        That's pretty much your mentality.

        April 3, 2014 at 1:39 pm |
  12. Carol Xu

    Sorry, don't believe it coming from the administration that stated "If you like your Doctor, you can keep your Doctor, period", among other distortions aka lies.

    How many of the 7 million were without insurance previously? Answer: Don't know.

    How many of the 7 million were due to Medicaid expansion? Answer: Don't know.

    How many of the 7 million are below the age of 35? Answer: Don't know.

    How many of the 7 million have paid the first month premium? Answer: Don't know.

    BUT, they have exceeded all expectations in signing people up for Obamacare? Answer: DOUBTFUL

    Health insurance should be like car insurance and should kick in when there are major problems. Can you imagine what an oil change would cost if it was covered under your auto insurance? You don't bill your car insurance for oil changes or little scratches in your car's paint job.

    Also – unlike the gov website, auto insurance sites actually work! I can go get auto insurance quote for $25/month from a site like Insurance Panda. With healthcare dot gov, it takes me hours to get an unaffordable BS rate. Who can afford $600/month insurance?

    This "7 million" is just another Obama fix of the numbers. Look for a massive drop in unemployment just before November too. Obama will be found to be the most corrupt and dishonest president in history. Unfortunately we won't get proof until his damage is done.

    April 1, 2014 at 1:58 pm | Reply
    • Tony

      See my post below.

      April 1, 2014 at 2:53 pm | Reply
    • c4tee

      What President Obama meant is not hard to figure out. It was to say , if what you want , is to keep your doctor that is acceptable. There was an unintended omission of what your doctor wanted. You did not dismiss your doctor, your doctor dismissed you. The insurance industry would not have delivered payments to doctors for catastrophic illnesses requiring major surgery. That was the reason why your doctor and doctors and insurance companies across the country were abandoning clients.

      April 1, 2014 at 3:57 pm | Reply
  13. AlbaMN

    Depends on how you define success.
    There are more people insured than there were before and important changes have been made to insurance and health care in this country. We are also having a conversation about health care in this country. So Yes it is.
    There are still uninsured and under insured individuals out there, there are still major flaws in the kind and amount of treatments for various conditions and how those are treated. Much of the "conversation" is non-productive mud slinging / finger pointing. So No, not yet.

    April 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm | Reply
  14. Blame Republicans For Obamacare

    Blame republicans for Obamacare. If the republicans had introduced a single payer system (the ONLY system that will allow us, as an entire nation, to negotiate better health care prices), then we wouldn't have Obamacare today. But since the republicans introduced NOTHING (of substance) to address the health care crisis, we now have Obamacare. I blame the republicans for Obamacare. After all it was THEIR idea, supported by the Heritage Foundation, and implemented by Mitt Romney.

    April 1, 2014 at 10:31 am | Reply
  15. Tim OCallaghan

    the only things that a republican cares about equal to the fanaticism they engage in with the aca are contraception and abortion........they would never help millions in the country with some sort of jobs plan while a dem might get credit for it

    April 1, 2014 at 9:22 am | Reply
  16. shel

    It does nothing for those of us that use alternative care. paying for insurance I don't even use....!!!!

    April 1, 2014 at 7:21 am | Reply
    • kurt

      I'm curious. If you have a heart attack, what form of alternative care will you be using? How about if you lose a leg in a car crash?

      Do you think it's reasonable for you to be uninsured, have a situation like this where you get treated in the hospital and then have the rest of us cover your bill if you can't pay for it? Because that's how the healthcare system works without mandatory insurance. It's a major factor in the costs being so high... people get treatment who can't pay, then those with insurance have to pay more.

      There really are only two solutions. Let those who can't provide proof of payment (either insurance or cash up front) die on the hospital steps... or have everyone be insured. The situation we have where hospitals cannot deny treatment but will not always get paid is what is killing the financial stability of our healthcare system.

      But people who don't have insurance don't want to be left for dead at a crash site by an ambulance because they don't have health insurance. They want those with insurance to pay for them instead.

      I hate to sound like a Republican... but PAY YOUR OWN WAY... or accept that you wont' be treated if you are unconcious and dying without insurance.

      April 1, 2014 at 2:19 pm | Reply
  17. Shelia

    Cheaper to pay the fine, the cost is outrageous. I can't afford it..

    April 1, 2014 at 7:20 am | Reply
    • emskadittle

      and you can afford a hospital stay?

      April 3, 2014 at 11:26 am | Reply
  18. Minnie Mouse

    The law is good is by changing what's covered and who all is covered by insurance now, because no one can be denied coverage now. Since the law is mandated to everyone it's not great after all because not everyone has the income to afford to pay for it. You only get assistance if your in the lower income bracket. This still leaves out millions of people won't be able to get health care.

    It makes more sense to put everyone on either Medicare or Medicare for everyone who needs assistance, regardless of income. By doing this everyone would have health care and then you would need to raise everyone's taxes in the Medicare and Medicate brackets. This would help offset the costs to where people are not getting things for free and not shit the burden onto everyone else. If your working, you need to pay something.

    In general the law is not good because you have people receiving 100% free healthcare and then what happens to all the people with absolutely no health care at all. Who's going to help them?? These people are working and so are a lot of the ones who are getting free assistance? Everyone needs health care. Now the law needs to figure out how many people will still be without? This will prove the law doesn't work for everyone.

    April 1, 2014 at 6:55 am | Reply
    • Minnie Mouse

      The word is "shift". Please revise for me. Spelled wrong. Sorry!

      April 1, 2014 at 6:59 am | Reply
  19. renegade98

    Successful so far in enrolling and I do believe that it will be very successful down the road.

    March 31, 2014 at 11:27 pm | Reply
  20. Chipster

    College students can remain on their parent's insurance. Children with pre-existing conditions can get insurance. People who were going to emergency rooms for treatment because they couldn't pay for a primary care physician will no longer cost taxpayers a fortune. Women aren't denied coverage because of past experience with abusive husbands or sexual assault that insurance companies considered to be "preexisting conditions." Insurance companies can no longer kick a person out of their plan after decades of premiums because they developed a serious illness. Success? If not, it's at least a very good step in the right direction.

    March 31, 2014 at 10:56 pm | Reply
  21. Tony

    The 6 million number is out of date. ACA enrollment (counting only people signing up for private coverage through the federal and state exchanges) reached 6 million last Thursday (3/27/2014). The actual number is approaching 7 million. It may get there today.

    From the LA Times (3/30/2014):

    "Precise figures on national health coverage will not be available for months. But available data indicate:

    • At least 6 million people have signed up for health coverage on the new marketplaces, about one-third of whom were previously uninsured.

    • A February survey by consulting firm McKinsey & Co. found 27% of new enrollees were previously uninsured, but newer survey data from the nonprofit Rand Corp. and reports from marketplace officials in several states suggest that share increased in March.

    • At least 4.5 million previously uninsured adults have signed up for state Medicaid programs, according to Rand's unpublished survey data, which were shared with The Times. That tracks with estimates from Avalere Health, a consulting firm that is closely following the law's implementation.

    • An additional 3 million young adults have gained coverage in recent years through a provision of the law that enables dependent children to remain on their parents' health plans until they turn 26, according to national health insurance surveys from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    • About 9 million people have bought health plans directly from insurers, instead of using the marketplaces, Rand found. The vast majority of these people were previously insured.

    • Fewer than a million people who had health plans in 2013 are now uninsured because their plans were canceled for not meeting new standards set by the law, the Rand survey indicates."

    Once again, the enrollment number (reaching 6 million several days ago and heading to 7 million) does not include people getting Medicaid or people under 26 getting insurance through their parents.

    March 31, 2014 at 6:53 pm | Reply
  22. CALIFORNIA

    Obamacare is based on LIES, DECEIT, BRIBES ECT....

    March 31, 2014 at 6:35 pm | Reply
  23. dojo8181

    Personally the ACA has covered my wife and I for only $33/month. My family has been without insurance for two years. I couldn't afford healthcare any other way. Thank You very much.

    March 31, 2014 at 6:17 pm | Reply
    • George

      I think it is great that this law has worked for you. What are your thoughts on the costs of this law in both dollars, dividing the country, and for those that lost health care that they liked and now have to pay more and cannot go to the doctor they like?

      April 1, 2014 at 8:30 am | Reply
  24. dojo8181

    For me it's a total success because this is the first time I've had insurance for over two years. $33/month for both wife and myself. I never could have afforded it with the ACA. Thanks you!

    March 31, 2014 at 6:15 pm | Reply
  25. willhaas

    The ACA does not keep the Promises the President made regarding health care. At is first state of the union address of his second term, the President said the government should not make promises that it cannot keep and it must keep those promises that it has already made. Currently the President is not abiding by that either because he is doing nothing to keep his promises on health care. Through the ACA the federal government is trying to run a health care system. The constitution does not give the federal government the power to do so. The states have the power but not the federal government according to the constitution.

    March 31, 2014 at 5:43 pm | Reply
  26. kurt

    As to if it's a success... you have to give it more time to know for sure. It's been successful at getting people insured:

    -6 million signups through exchanges.
    -2.5 million Medicaid enrollments through eligibility expansions (would have been higher if more states had gone along with this portion of the law)
    -2.5 million children under the age of 26 able to get insurance under their parents plans.

    That's 11 million total.

    But a full accounting will need time. Time to see how the prices of insurance react after several years. Time to see if those who missed it this year will flock to get insured for next year once they see penalties on their taxes. Time to see if the coverage is adequate for people's needs.

    All talk of that is still guessing at this point. But as far as getting people insured... seems to be working okay.

    March 31, 2014 at 5:38 pm | Reply
  27. kurt

    "More people have lost their insurance than have gained insurance.

    Net loss of people have insurance now."

    False I'm afraid.

    WaPo explains it here if you like... but it's BS. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/03/17/boehners-claim-that-obamacare-has-resulted-in-a-net-loss-of-people-with-health-insurance/

    Essentially, many of the 5-6 million who lost their prior plan were automatically enrolled in another plan by their provider. 5 million insurance plans are cancelled EVERY YEAR on average, and most have that exact same thing happen so that we don't have 5 million new uninsured show up each year.

    Second... even if the full 6 million didn't get a new plan, you have over 6 million with plans through the exchanges... so it's still not a net negative.

    Third, that doesn't include new Medicaid patients that got a plan due to Obamacare widening eligibility (in the states who decided to go along with it). Most believe that's another 2-3 million.

    Fourth, 3.1 million children under 26 were able to join their parents plans because of Obamacare. Those were previously uncovered who now have insurance as well.

    In the end, you're probably looking at a net increase in insured around 10-11 million due to changes from Obamacare. And that's a conservative estimate.

    March 31, 2014 at 5:34 pm | Reply
  28. Hector Slagg

    Only in the Liberal mind, only in the Liberal mind. The last 100 years have been a Glaring Failure of Liberal Politics. If it was a success we would not have a 17.5 trillion dollar Federal debt, with no plan to pay it off.

    March 31, 2014 at 4:41 pm | Reply
    • Chipster

      That's the twisted logic of Conservative Land. First of all, Bush doubled the debt in 8 years while leaving a laundry list of unfunded programs that Obama now has in his budget (NCLB, Medicare Part D...) and the cost of 2 unfunded wars; plus the cost of 2 industry bailouts in 2008! When people ask why liberals blame Bush for the debt, the answer is in his legacy of unfunded (what happened to pay as you go?) debt that he left in his wake. It's the rewriting of history that conservatives love so much. Example? Fast and Furious fiasco that conservative twisted like a pretzel to blame Obama when they know quite well that the gunrunning program was part of Bush's Operation Gunrunner that began in 2005! The conservative philosophy seems to be to repeat false claims often enough that people will accept them as fact. It may work in the short term but facts have a way of rising to the surface.

      March 31, 2014 at 11:08 pm | Reply
    • Obama Whaaat?

      So those 8 years of spending by Reagan to bring down communism was the liberals fault? Pop quiz: Who was the last President to pay down on the debt? Answer: Bill Clinton who is a democrat liberal. I can make a bunch of false statements to try to make people look bad but here in AMERICA WE TRY TO USE FACTS!!!! I bet you're the type of guy that wishes we could go back to the policies of the early 20th century and believes that minimum wage or child labor laws were all of the liberals fault and now with these laws we're hurting American prosperity! Go back to your mothers basement and look up more conspiracy theories you nut job.

      April 1, 2014 at 10:21 pm | Reply
  29. CALIFORNIA

    Is Obamacare a success?

    NOT even close.

    More people have lost their insurance than have gained insurance.

    Net loss of people have insurance now.

    OBAMACARE = FAILURE

    March 31, 2014 at 1:22 pm | Reply
    • Debunked

      Your lies have already been debunked. Yet somehow you keep spewing them. On the GOP payroll I suppose.

      April 2, 2014 at 10:01 pm | Reply
      • CALIFORNIA

        Ignoring the truth and facts are still your good points I see.

        So many lies Obama even received the "Lie Of The Year" award.

        CONGRATS!!!

        April 3, 2014 at 3:11 pm |
      • What part of Romneycare don't you like.

        Please post what part of Romney care you don't like.

        April 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm |

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