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In the debut episode of Crossfire Reloaded, S.E. Cupp tells us what we should be paying attention to after Colorado's first month of marijuana sales. Do you agree with her?
S.E. CUPP: So much for healthy living in Colorado right? (Laughter) Munchie time! Break out the Doritos and the Mountain Dew!
Let’s talk about weed man. Cause that’s fun. The Colorado experiment is really interesting for a number of reasons and there’s a number of things we’re going to have to be watching for.
The early results are good but the market is high, so to speak. When the doors first opened in Colorado, a lot of people rushed in and bought marijuana.
Marijuana in Colorado is taxed an exorbitant rate. Something like 20% on top of the 10% existing sales tax. So, we’ll have to see if all of the people who were going to buy marijuana have already bought it and then decided it’s too expensive to buy in the quantities that they want. Maybe the market starts waning and stagnating over the next few months.
You might start to see black markets, which will negate the whole reason, at least politically, for legalizing marijuana. That would be a huge problem. It would turn the marijuana industry in Colorado into a tourism-only industry.
The other thing we’re going to have to watch for is whether or not legalizing marijuana leads to more pot smoking. I have a sneaking suspicion it will (laughter). We want to know among whom? Is it among teenagers? Which would be bad…Does it turn to more illicit drug use, which would be bad.
So there’s a lot to watch, we’ll have to see if long-term the Colorado marijuana experiment comes down from its initial high.
Denver has a 50% high school graduation rate.Mo pot should help huh?
How do you define "too high"? Since legalization– how many people have died in Marijuana related
* Traffic accidents
* Domestic violence incidents
* Medical problems
During this same timeframe, I am sure there have been more than a few people who lost lives due to alcoholism.
Not high enough.
One would think that the GOP would be in favor of Potheads finding a way to avoid paying high taxes. Tax Evasion is, after all: the GOP way.
Tax Evasion is the GOP's favorite pastime, surpassing even their lust for cheap immigrant labor. Thus, I find Cupp's comments to be very hypocritical, although par for the course for GOP zealots.
Colorado will do just fine. In fact you want to take a huge chunk out of drug violence. Make it legal and treat the ones that become addicted. It is cheaper that incarcerating them. That is a proven fact in Scandinavian countries. The ONLY reason the USA does not adopt this way of thinking is because of the religious. Most of whom go home every night and have a drink, which is legal and results in more innocent peoples deaths that all other drug combined. However, because of narrow minded thinking and religious rule doing the right thing is not tolerated. While you at it make prostitution legal, gibe them healthcare, regulate and tax them and help with the spread of infectious disease. But, no it is better to turn a blind eye, arrest them and let them spread disease. How is that doing the right thing ? Because we let religion dictate what happens in our bed rooms behind closed doors. A place that neither government or religion belongs.
So, where is you proof about these religious people doing what they do? Do you have some data to back up your claim? Do you? No, of course you don't, you just like to spout out your hatred for those you do not understand.
The fact are the laws against cannabis and hemp are based on racism and greed. The laws were made by corrupt politicians and the corporations that controlled them and still do.The hysteria perpetuated by those in the past and the present has no basis of scientific fact. The facts are that cannabis and hemp have been proven to have many beneficial medical uses as well as thousands of commercial and industrial uses. If you google medical cannabis or industrial/commercial hemp numerous proven applications can be found for both. If the reasoning for the laws against cannabis and hemp were used for all drugs then tobacco, alcohol, and many perscription and non perscription drugs would be made illegal, as all kill thousands daily and have killed millions overall. Cannabis and hemp have killed none.The laws against cannabis and hemp have resulted in hundreds of thousands of people being imprisoned for a plant at taxpayers expense of billions of dollars.Those who are tired of the politicians unwillingness to repeal the laws against cannabis and hemp in this country can take political action. They can replace the politicians with those who will repeal the laws. Join oganizations who are working to change the laws locally, nationally, and internationally; Such as NORML, MPP.org, Vote Hemp, Students for Sensible Drug Policy, and Reallegalization.org. Also they can demonstrate and perform direct political action and join Overgrow The World: 2014 Global Public Plantings. Planting seed everywhere!!!
I propose pot parties in Colorado at the rim of the Grand canyon its high, it's dangerous and a stupid idea just like smoking pot.
God, you're stupid...difficult to have a smart debate with idiots like Cupp
The author of this piece is using prehistoric stereotypes under the guise of journalism. CNN is such a joke.
Weed is easy enough to get. Personally I'd rather keep the government and their taxes out of my pot.
Cupp is an idiot. There is no contradiction between healthy living and pot smoking.
WTF is she doing on CNN? Why even give some uneducated on the subject matter a voice?
I really want to ask Cupp how the progressive agenda tastes. Its funny watching Cupp's evolution into marijuana acceptance rather than making silly statements like "Marijuana hasn't been in society as long as alcohol." Hmm one is a chemical reaction and the other is all natural. I wonder which came first. Or better yet the argument of "Well its been illegal as long as we have known it: Actually to be correct Jefferson himself had declared "Hemp will be the future of this country." So overall its pretty cute watching this woman talk about issues she is completely ignorant about and try to cover her ignorance up with a smile. My thank you, since you smiled at me I'll believe whatever bogus information you want to say, even though its inconsistent with fact.
Why does she think this is such a humorous topic? We are talking about a highly addictive substance, with THC values that do not even compare with the pot of the 60's. Young people will be more apt to partake because of it's new availability. A mind altering drug like this will have a highly destructive impact own the developing neurological maturation of preteens, teenagers, and young adults.
I'm guessing she thinks it's funny because she is high?
Totally untrue. Naturally grown cannabis from the 60s if it was GOOD like Panama Red or Columbian Gold or Thai Sticks or Hashish-had THC levels comparable to ANYTHING grown indoors today. Saying that today's pot is dangerous is a LIE intended to defend how come aging Boomers were OK smoking it but now want it BANNED.
The truth is positive benefits of legalization will end the racist unfair practice of giving heavy prison convictions to minority kids and ruining all chance of their ever holding a job. Don't tell me that cannabis convictions are no longer severe as there are people in prison now serving life sentences FOR SMOKING CANNABIS!!!
As for kids, right now it is very easy to buy weed on campus at elementary school levels. BECAUSE it is profitable and dealers go where they can sell it. Let's CHANGE that. Make it LEGAL and REGULATE it.
If it were legalized and REGULATED like Scotch Whiskey then you would not see it for sale at schools. Like ALCOHOL it would NOT be for sale at schools. Get it? If PARENTS let their kids drink or smoke that is not society's problem. It will be the parents responsibility to keep it out of their own kids' hands.
Which is how it should have been from the very first.
Your logic is completely backwards. And full of lies.
You do realize that alcohol first started ALL NATURAL, right? It was discovered many moons ago by the fermentation of wheat and water...the marijuana plant itself is all natural, but don't think other items are not added too it. The "all natural" argument it the most ignorant of them all.....Have you heard of the coca plant, that is where cocaine comes from. Have you hear of poppi fields? That is where heroine is derived from....So you the all natural argument holds no water considering alcohol, marijuana, cocaine and heroine all derive from something "natural". Meth is the only drug that is 100% synthetic!
Why buy it when you can just grow it in your backyard?
I have to laugh a little when anti-legalization people say things like "because of legalization you will start to see black markets"
Isn't that where everyone who can't buy it medically already buys weed?
So true. Their hypocrisy is amazing
i've been buying black market weed for forty six years and counting and had mostly given up on ever being legal.......i met some damned fine folks doing deals for weed and don't really care anymore if it's legal or not.....unless it makes the cost go down...which seems unlikely since so much in taxes is taken out......the naysayers will always need something to keep 'em fearful.....it's just the way they roll.
1. Thinks they themselves are rich.
2. Makes less than $100,000/yr.
3. Has a net worth less then $200,000.
4. Primary residence is on wheels or blocks.
5. Benefits directly from the ACA but really, really hates Obamacare.
6. Probably retired and depending on SS and Medicare or will be the person most likely to need SS and Medicare.
7. Thinks they are religious but they should read the book, "How NOT To Be A Republican" (a.k.a. The Bible).
8. Thinks republicans are conservatives.
10. Actually thinks republicans represent THEM!!
That sums it up .... lol
What a sad little person you must be.
I agree with you.
HaHa!!!! And it's than ... : )
Hmmmm let's see if your analysis fits this Republican...1. Thinks they themselves are rich.....define rich....rich in spirit, love,compassion, sure....money mmmm not so much
2. Makes less than $100,000/yr.....no, more than that
3. Has a net worth less then $200,000.....ehhh wrong again
4. Primary residence is on wheels or blocks.last time I looked at the house it wasn't moving, didn't have the tpotential to move and the basement is poured concrete, not blocks....soo ehhh wrong again
5. Benefits directly from the ACA but really, really hates Obamacare. Half right...I really do hate Obamacare and would love to personally thank every Congressman and Senator who voted for it and made my premiums go up $447 a month, me lose our family doctor of 15 years, introduced us to a brand spanking new 20% copay and half my prescriptions now not being covered. It's all so awesome under the hope and change slogan
6. Probably retired and depending on SS and Medicare or will be the person most likely to need SS and Medicare......ehhhh wrong again. technically I have 25 years til retirement but by the time I get there it'll probably raised to 85 retirement age, so I probably have my lifetime again before I can retire.
7. Thinks they are religious but they should read the book, "How NOT To Be A Republican" (a.k.a. The Bible).I think the Bible would be quite independent. I don't think it would advocate the Democratic stance on abortion, homosexual marriage or owing people money (national debt)....and I don't think it would advocate the Republican stance on the environment as we are called upon to be good stewards of the earth and animals....or some parts of welfare...we are called upon to take care of the widows and the fatherless...and I'm not sure there would be many fat cat Republicans making their way through the eye of the needle.....but then again there are plenty of liberal dem elitists that wouldn't make it through either
8. Thinks republicans are conservatives.....if we had to check a box, I would say yes, most Republicans are conservative and most Democrats are liberal.
9. Racist......ehhh wrong again, I'm in a bi-racial marriage and just because I don't agree with someone's ideology doesn't mean I am racist. it doesn't even mean I hate them, it means I don't agree with them. I have lots of liberal friends of all colors and we have very interesting discussions and arguments but at the end of the day I would lay down my life or give all my earthly goods to help them if they needed me.
10. Actually thinks republicans represent THEM!! ehhhh wrong yet again my friend....I don't think either party truly represents it's base. I think they love to keep us hating each other so they can do their dirty work behind closed doors and in peace. I don't think Democrats are very happy with heir leader on the environment, war or immigration and I don't think us Republicans were very happy with bush on taxes, gas prices, banking and industry regulation, etc.
Just dont get sick or need medical help while there.. Hard to get good care when the provider is stoned.. Stay away until they regain their brains....
Why blame marijuana legalization for health care providers being under the influence? Wouldn't re-examining medical professionals self-governance be a better approach? Alcohol is legal but we don't blame the legalization when doctors are under the influence of alcohol.
So your claiming all doctors in Colorado are high all the time because they can write scripts for it now? So that must mean before this, they were all on Oxycontin since they had access to that too?
I've lived in California, Washington State, South Dakota and Colorado. Best healthcare I've ever received was in Colorado. And that was very recent.
Worst was in SD, where the doctors were generally very unskilled and used antiquated practices.
Outdated stereotypes presented as journalism? Disappointing.
Don't know if Colorado is getting too high, but it is collecting millions in tax revenue from the sale of Pot. Soon Colorado will be the richest state in the Union.
is she a real cnn correspondent? if so, then why would you let her say these ridiculous things? it only makes your coverage look idiotic. most of the points, which she makes, are either wrong, or very speculative. it appears that she did not do her research.
Since when is anything illegal good for anyone??? Colorado may be rolling in the bank but you don't see any other states following suites because it's ridiculous! Your not looking at all the problems that this is causing. There's huge banking issues, people buying by using EBT cards which are supposed to be for people that say they need food, you have people driving while high and your bringing increased awareness to our children who are not even of age yet. It's not worth it. Obviously there's issues with our government as well, so why even allow any states to sell marijuana. If it's something that's so great then everyone would be doing it but it's absolutely not!
That circular logic made me dizzier than any weed I've ever consumed!
"It should be illegal because it its already illegal, plus my mom said it was bad for you"
I was paraphrasing but did I basically say what she was trying to say?
the "banking problems" are due to banks feeling taking dispensary money is too dangerous from a risk standpoint, soon that will not be a problem with even Grover Norquist getting in on the act and trying to convince Congress to let them be a "normal" business. The EBT thing is nothing but an urban myth...if a dispensary can't take credit cards, how could they take an EBT card? The EBT system is tied into a central database of what you can and cannot buy, obviously you've never seen it in action or you'd know that. And "raising awareness to kids"...most kids already know about it. Maybe at school instead of telling everyone "just don't because we say so", if we actually told them "this is why it's bad" then maybe kids would listen...but telling someone "you can't do that, AND I refuse to tell you why" is a horrible idea.
Will more people smoke more? sure but who cares so long as they’re doing so responsibly. I wish everyone did that way they’d be more mindful of themselves and everyone else. If everyone who drank instead smoked, maybe our society and what it values wouldn’t be in the gutter in terms of thoughtfulness, respectfulness, mindfulness, and shallow/attention to the surface-ness. Our society is toxic.
Since when does smoking weed make you unhealthy because of what you eat? The most reputable studies prove that people who smoke more weed actually weigh less than when they did. I gained 10 pounds when i stopped smoking bud.
Studies have proven time after time that weed isn’t a gateway drug. This lady needs to smoke. Only problem is she’s probably self-reflect and spiral into a depression. Haha wish i was kidding. This applies to a lot of these people nowadays.. at least the ones of intelligence.
Will more people smoke more? sure but who cares so long as they're doing so responsibly. I wish everyone did that way they'd be more mindful of themselves and everyone else. If everyone who drank instead smoked, maybe our society and what it values wouldn't be in the gutter in terms of thoughtfulness, respectfulness, mindfulness, and shallow/attention to the surface-ness. Our society is toxic.
Studies have proven time after time that weed isn't a gateway drug. This lady needs to smoke. Only problem is she's probably self-reflect and spiral into a depression. Haha wish i was kidding. This applies to a lot of these people nowadays.. at least the ones of intelligence.
In Oklahoma, even though we have some of the harshest penalties for cannabis, it was still the #1 cash crop! Now if it was just legalized and taxed, the gov. could actually make some money. Pot is NOT going away! Users will buy on the black market as long as it is illegal. The cartels will continue to be violent, and we can continue to incarcerate huge numbers, and confiscate their property, and ruin their lives, and pay tax dollars to the private prison companies, OR we can listen to the people! A majority of Americans want this legalized. Here in Oklahoma there was a bill introduced for regulating and taxing pot, but the Holier-than-thou chairman of the committee refused to let the bill be heard. He stated he didn't think his church members would approve!!!!!!!!!!!! So we the citizens are advancing a petition to have it put on the ballot. When our "representatives" stop listening to the people, thank God we can circumvent them!
See OK State rep C. Johnston (sp?) and SB2116,
ya you cant buy pot with food stamps thats a lie not true
Of course one can't buy MJ with EBT cards...yet! Give it time! haha =) But truthfully, I think the point behind that was the these people on government assistance are on government assistance because "they cannot afford food, healthcare, etc" But don't get it twisted....they can afford those cigarettes, alcohol and MARIJUANA DAILY!!!!
Thank you so much for my free childcare, healthcare, rental assistance, monthly income and food stamps!!! It is so appreciated because now I don't have to work, take care of my own kids or make my own money! But I have enough money to pay for my WEED!
Avid EBT User
Why would I watch a man I have found to be an asshole for decades. A swimming pool that is 25% poison will still kill you. John Stewart shut Crossfire down and I am with him.
Of course there will be the initial increase in use, just like there was/is an increase in alcohol consumption post-prohibition. That's if you already had the current number of smokers before hand to tell if there is an increase. The current pretax price for recreational marijuana is about the same if not higher than the black market price. Why would anyone pay $400 before tax for an ounce from a dispensary when they could grow their own or buy off the black market for the same (before tax) if not cheaper. The income from the tax is inflated because it is a new market with little competition. I think residents would continue to use the dispensaries if the tax wasn't ridiculously high, if they dropped the tax % from 25% to 15%, they could see an increase of 20% more business. I think the government's "get rich quick tax" could be a downfall of the legalization in Colorado and many other states if not addressed.
Because it's legal?
Why do people pay double for retail cigarettes or alchohol vs what they could buy it for on the black market? The reason is they don't want to risk jail time. Those black markets DO exist and people do use them... just not enough to be a big issue. People prefer alcohol that they know won't kill them (well, not any more then alcohol regularly kills people) instead of risking their lives on bathtub gin.
And yes, some people will grow their own pot. We have home breweries too. My dad made beer when I was growing up. So what?
Of course legal cannabis will not lead to increased illicit drug use. The gateway effect has been debunked for years now and there's no reason to pretend that it ever had a shred of merit. We decriminalized marijuana here in Colorado 39 years ago, making it a very low priority for law enforcement, but we are not bursting at the seams with heroin addicts, or for that matter, obese schizophrenics who can't get up off of their sofas to lead productive lives. Though our liberal pot laws are not responsible for it, the fact is that we are the healthiest, least obese state in the nation and our rate of serious mental illness is among the lowest.
The high prices and high taxes are very unfortunate because it's high prices that make the black market viable. It's the cost of regulatory compliance that keeps the retail prices high, not the cannabis itself.
If we (in Colorado) could grow the crop outdoors like the corn that covers our Eastern Plains, it would be no more expensive to produce than corn but would be profitable without generous subsidies even at prices that would put the black market out of business. Right now this is impossible because the feds could change their minds about enforcement at any moment, and no one wants to risk that he might face federal charges for growing 600 acres of pot.
We know from long experience that prohibition and enforcement of prohibition only corrupts law enforcement without even appreciably slowing the black market trade, so continuing in that effort would simply keep us fitting Eintstein's definition of insanity. Here in Colorado we're trying to "experiment" with sanity, but the most effective means of curtailing the black market is not an allowed option.
So tax payers in Colorado are ok with people using ebt cards to buy pot instead of food? When did you secede from the union? If you are ok with my first question, how about we send our tax bills to you so you can waste money for us also.
An ounce of black market cannabis costs $50(in my border state) in Colorado it costs $420, EBT pays $4.00 per person per day. They would have to save for months in order to buy legal cannabis & apparently their not savers. In your state 50% of people use cannabis & putting them in jail isn't an option why not make sure their money goes into the economy & not to illegal drug cartels.
Yeah and an ounce Mexican brick weed costs 20 bucks an ounce in my old town nect to the border but it's crap. You pay For What You get. Paying 50 bucks an ounce for nug or some strains is practically unheard of. In Texas you pay 60 an 8th you do the math. Some people w Po us be glad to pay that much for the right to smoke freely and have the options people in Colorado have.
George, I am surprised you are on CNN with bogus information that Fox news put out about being able to buy pot using EBT or unemployment. It is people like you who believe everything they hear that is the reason cannabis is illegal to begin with. Refer madness must be your favorite movie?
George, i just though of another point that you have seemed to over look. Please send me the $64 MILLION (the tax revenue that Colorado will be collecting on cannabis) collected in taxes this year for your state from the law enforcement budget. I will put that money to good use!
You cant buy pot with food stamps thats not true read into it if you don't be leave me
You are confusing EBT with TANF. They are on the same "card", but EBT also encompasses state-collected child support, disability, and other monies than just "food stamps". Even if you have an EBT with $300 TANF funds and $100 disability funds, you could ONLY pull out the $100. The TANF part can't be cashed out, and there is a computerized central system that will deny "non-food items" at the register...however this isn't an issue at dispensaries as they don't accept anything but cash due to banking resistance.
What a well reasoned post. And a breath of fresh air.
I have a well stocked mini-cellar of fine wine. As a technology professional, small business owner, husband and father of 4, I don't really have much time to myself. Rarely do I get a chance to have a drink, but it doesn't keep me from keeping some wine on hand for those opportunities. Similarly, at one point I also kept a small amount of marijuana, procured from the black market, on hand for the occasional weekend evening when I did have a little spare time for such indulgences, or to entertain colleagues and friends of a similar mindset. Having either on hand did not and does not change my priorities. It certainly didn't lead to anything else. I, for one, wince at the horrific impact of the meth epidemic here and in other rural states and think to myself, "why don't they just smoke pot."
I hope my current state of residence (AZ) someday takes as enlightened view of marijuana as our neighbors in Colorado. In the meantime, I vote with my dollars, electing to take my kids on spring break in Telluride. Maybe I'll have time to indulge, maybe not, but it's nice to know that act doesn't make me a criminal there. Oh and the skiing is great too.
"The gateway effect has been debunked for years". Really and by whom? You will never find anyone these days who is addicted to heroin or crack cocaine saying they never used marijuana.
Your asking a "leading question", which is a logical fallacy. Most pot smokers are NOT heroin or crack users, but the way you formed your questions makes it look like they are.
Ever had a percocet? Lortab? Then guess what...you too have done opiates!
AGREED WALTER JONES!!!!!!!
Nope, CO is not bursting at the seams with heroin! It's this whole idea behind geographic location!!!!!! Crack cocaine and meth is RAMPID here in CO....but then again maybe you do not see that, I don't know!
Sure there are studies to debunk that MJ is a gateway drug...but there are studies that say it is! So you have both sides, completely 50/50 for that argument. One really cannot argue for, nor can they argue against...it is the luck of the draw!
I will challenge you this though....talk to ANYONE who has used illicit drugs(anything more than nicotine, alcohol or MJ) and ask them if they went straight to the illicit drugs?? 99/100 people used alcohol, cigs or MJ, BEFORE they used illicit drugs...
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