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Crossfire hosts Newt Gingrich and Van Jones spar over Secretary of State John Kerry's recent comments on climate change. Whose side are you leaning towards?
Jones to Palin: My kids are not subhuman
Van Jones was deeply offended by Sarah Palin's comments defending Ted Nugent.
How about we worry about JOBS first?
Maybe the IRS? I mean why is Lois Learner taking the 5th? Is she guilty of targeting Conservative groups? Who is she covering for??? How can Obama say there isn't a "smidgen" of corruption when there are still investigations going on???
I don't see what the fuss is. He said what he thinks. Is that news to anyone?? They all think the same but most are smarter. Like all sociopaths they have learned to not say what they really think publicly like that. Next?
Thanks Newt- Kerry is a retard, anti-american creep- climate change is a fraud hoax and scam.
The June 2012 issue of Popular Science has an excellent article about the deniers, their PR firm, and the operatives working for the PR firm, as well as, their histories and funders. If anyone is REALLY interested in the issue , from either side, I suggest you read the article. Very informative. As for snooty Newt, well, who the heck cares what the, as Ann Coulter calls him, charlatan says.
Gingrich is wrong to stepping back from his 2007 (paraphrase:) "we should move toward the most effective –and urgent - possible steps to reduce atmospheric carbon loading" to 2 days ago (paraphrase) "it's delusional for the Secretary of State to equate the gravity of climate change to current geopolitical dangers". At this point, what other possibility could have been anywhere nearly as effective as Kerry's statement (7 years later) in expressing the overdue urgency?
Van Jones, Nugent did not direct insult to you!!!! why would YOU be insulted!!! It was directed to Obama and from a Voting citizen in the USA.. You are a talking head with a large broadcast voice that continues to use race in any remarks to shut them down. Are you making this opinion based on your race??? I'M BLACK in color and do not consider myself or my race as mongrels and Nugent did "not say" BLACKS ARE MONGRELS OR Van Jones is one. He directed this remark to a PUBLIC OFFICAL who is to "serve us" HE IS NOT A KING, LORD OR GOD. Stop this angle... I am citizen of the USA and object to being used as a pawn.
I would imagine that is a particularly frustrating form of racism. At least the outright openly bigoted racists are honest about their ignorance, and typically not very persuasive or influential with their opinions (at least not in the last 20 years or so). I would think the people who are claiming to speak for you, and consider you part of a monolithic hive mind must be far more insulting at this point. It's folks like Van Jones that keep us from having an honest discussion on race. I've heard it said that a white person can never understand the black experience in America. I don't doubt that it would be challenging to many of our deeply held beliefs. Without an open dialog that is impossible, and without at least the attempt to understand the racial divide will always be there. While you may not be offended by Nugent's remark, I have to admit being a little disappointed and put off by it. Even if he didn't mean it the way it sounded, it was poorly worded at best, and it let's be honest, a lot of people took that as racist because it just sounded that way. My biggest issue with his choice of wording was in the context. Had he said that during one of his shows, I'd write it off and probably not go to his next show (which I probably wouldn't have gone to anyways). He chose to say it while representing a political candidate, and by extension their party. I'm not registered with either party, but I'm inclined to vote Republican, and dislike what I see as an unfair stereotype of Republicans and their voters as racist. He reinforced that stereotype, and gave people like Van Jones more ammo for their own racist rants.
A mongrel is a mixed breed dog.
When used in reference to people, it's a derogatory term DIRECTLY commenting on race (a mixed race). In the context Nugent used it, he was negatively commenting on the fact that Obama has a white mother and black father.
Van Jones is married to a white woman. He has EVERY right to be upset by that term because it can be applied to his kids just as easily as it was applied to Obama.
So yeah... that insult was directed at all mixed race people... referring to them as "mongrels". That includes Van Jones' kids and he has every right to be pissed. Heck, I'm pissed and my child isn't mixed.
Well, I watched a clip the other day on Fox where Obama said that all of his people were "mongrels." He said that they were all a mix of some sort and he specifically said "mongrels." Didn't you see that????
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The whole Obama Administration is delusional but who is counting. As long as we have low information voters incompetents like Obama will be able to sell the public a bill of goods. Some will never catch on and so the great cherade goes on and on and on.
teabilly says what?
Wow hector I agree- As long as there are "low informed voters" such as yourself then we tax payers will continue to be ripped off and lied to on every level. How do you justify the Republicans new Farm Bill? They say they saved tax payers millions by cutting off food stamps. 1. Many of those on food stamps are the working poor. So they pay taxes as well. 2. The money the republicans saved tax payers- didn't go back to us or the working poor. They gave it to the CEO's of meg agri-business that are already reaping in huge profits. And yet you find this acceptable. 3. They then added a clause to the FB that prevents any tax payer from finding out where (to who) that money went. Talk about blatant theft. 4. These corporations that employees these working poor refuse to pay a livable wage as it would cut into their profits. Yet they have training classes to teach their employees how to get on Public Assistance. In other words they are abusing the Taxpayers by making us pay for their employees. All this has been brought to you by the conservative republican s and the Tea Party.
So Hector- you must enjoy giving your hard earned money to for profit corporations executives. Stop pretending like you republicans are interested in saving America or even representing the citizens- you do not.
I didn't know you were so well informed. So what is your solution to the 17 Trillion Dollar Federal Debt? After 100 years of big Liberal Programs why is the country still in such a mess? Oh, and Bob, I have already been thru 3 World Wars, two county Fairs, and a Sheep Shearing Contest. So Bob just what the hell you think you can tell me?
You must be a paid Koch roach to write that nonsense. You do know that slag is a waste product don't you?
Slagg is a waste product? So who told you jboh? You wouldn't joust me would you? A lot of waste product in current adminstration but Psst!, Don't tell 'em! They don't know!
Aww geez, Hector: still pedddling your fantasy of a century of liberal rule in this country? I guess you need something, however delusional, to justify your non-stop campign to alter reality. You must get tired of switching between that and your other alter-egos of Gunderson and Ray E. ( Georgia) but still the same BS package of lies and half-truths regardless of the package. By the way, when was the Third World War? Funny, I can't seem to find any trace of it, along with your wit and intelligence, but those are like everything else with you, a fantasy. If you actually had something worthwhile to contribute, people might take you seriously
You mean the same Newt Gingrich that was run out of office by his own party?!
Funny how on Crossfire last night Van Jones played a clip of Newt and Kerry talking during a Congressional Session in 07 discussing the importance of climate change. Newt himself said how important it was and that it was a threat. Now all of a sudden Kerry is delusional?
Kerry is an idiot who will be manipulated by the Iranians, despite his tough talk outside of their meetings. He is a pansy who must go!!!
Also, how much did Jake Trapper spend to sound like Anderson Cooper?
W and the boys allowed Israel to manipulate him into sending 100K+ to Iraq. You are delusional.
I am really disappointed in CNN that hired him; meaning Gingrich! Why do I want to listen to someone who acts like kindergartner!
Kerry is even a bigger buffoon then Biden.
Personally, I think both John Kerry and Al Gore are really out there. I bet they both came from the same planet, but I don't think it's earth.
We are only now digging up dirt from our closest planet and asteroids coming close to the earth keep taking us by surprise and or getting only back page news status. Yet the climate change folks keep claiming that things like solar flares, possible variations in our obit and our exact proximity to the sun, variations of the core temperature of the earth, methane released by natural sources, volcanic activity, etc............. have already been factored out and that we evil human's and our byproducts are the only or main reason for global warming and that if we dare question that, we are somehow "science deniers". Now who's really denying science when they don't ask more questions?
For example, more than two million people living on the banks of Lake Kivu in central Africa are at risk of being asphyxiated by gases building up beneath its surface, scientists have warned. But how much did we know about that before it actually happened.
It is estimated that the lake, which straddles the borders of the Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda, now contains 300 cubic kilometres of carbon dioxide and 60 cubic kilometres of methane that have bubbled into the Kivu from volcanic vents. The gases are trapped in layers 80 metres below the lake's surface by the intense water pressures there. However, researchers have warned that geological or volcanic events could disturb these waters and release the gases.
The impact would be devastating, as was demonstrated on 21 August 1986 at Lake Nyos in Cameroon, in West Africa. Its waters were saturated with carbon dioxide and a major disturbance – most probably a landslide – caused a huge cloud of carbon dioxide to bubble up from its depths and to pour down the valleys that lead from the crater lake.
Carbon dioxide is denser than air, so that the 50mph cloud hugged the ground and smothered everything in its path. Some 1,700 people were suffocated. How much did we know about that before this actually happened.
I want a safer planet, clean air and water as much as the next guy, but we have to realize that we are not the single biggest factor. Yes we do have some effect on global warming and we do still need to minimize pollution, but it's not all up to us. We're really not that aware of everything going on in our vast solar system or even our own planet and exactly how it is affecting us and those who claim that we do have it all figured out would be the real science deniers.
John Kerry is a real American hero and a truly decent man. Because he is Democrat doesn't change that. He did his job for America while "others" were "training" to fly obsolete jets in the Texas National guard at a cost to taxpayers of a million dollars or so. It was hard to get into the national guard in those days....
I could care less whether or not he's democrat or republican, because both parties have sold out the American people.
Kerry has his tongue in cheek on this one: There are those in the military looking 30 years ahead. Think of global warming as a bomb that takes 30 years to go off. And when it does it kills a billion people. That's 30 million a year. That's 200 Hiroshima's a year! This consideration leads to risk mitigation efforts, which for the US Military means billions of $.
The BIGGEST LIAR OF THE YEAR continues to recruit simple people so he can remain smartest kid in the class, what a joke
I agree, this is from the guy that predict the 2012 Republican sweep!? The only smart thing is the Conservatives really mucked up.
He's running a close second to Rush Limbaugh for having the ability of maximizing stupidity
Old pill-popper isn't stupid, he only preys on stupidity.
I agree! Look at the kooks Preibus recruits.
DING DING DING!!! Winner of the most irrelevant post award. Go back under the bridge, troll. I guess it must be galling to always be remeinded you are the slowest kid in the class without an actual disability-nope, that's just your laziness talking.
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Fmr. Obama Deputy Campaign Mgr. and W.H. Sr. Adviser, founder of Precision Strategies, fmr. Sr. Adviser to Maj. Leader Reid and Sen. Kennedy
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Former Special Adviser for Green Jobs under President Obama, co-founder of Rebuild the Dream, author and attorney
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