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February 10th, 2014
08:51 PM ET

Hillary attack a GOP façade?

Crossfire host Van Jones addresses Rand Paul saying cynical, tone deaf attacks on a powerful woman won't help you close the gender gap... that created the gap.

Watch Kevin Madden, Tim Miller and Tracy Sefl respond.

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  1. Jay

    Monica was a volunteer, so not paid, so not an employee, and so no one had authority over her. She was free to come, and go, work or not, as she chose, and she did so. At the same time he was whining about Bill Clinton's Monica Mess, Newt Gingrich was statutorily raping minor females as his wife lay on her deathbed. Gingrich was far more heinous than Bill Clinton, and was totally ILLegal, while Bill C was totally legal. Now, look into The Sperminator...GOP Senator Strom Thurmond...a white racist who sired a mulatto child by a black prostitute, refused to support the mother, or child, did all he could to keep them off Welfare, and did not even acknowledge the child as his until he lay on his deathbed.

    No matter how bad any Democrat is, the Republican competition is always far worse.

    March 9, 2014 at 12:20 am | Reply
  2. Faith of a Mustard Seed

    For all of you that think hildebeast is so great, do some research and you will find out the hildebest was fired by democrats for lying and ethic violations, is this the kind of prez you want?

    February 20, 2014 at 11:43 am | Reply
    • Jay

      NO matter how bad any Democrat is, the Republican counterpart is far worse. Sex scandals? Democrat Bill Clinton legally had consensual sex with an unmarried adult woman. Republican Newt Gingrich left his dying wife's bedside, to statutorily rape an underage girl. Republican white racist Strom Thurmond illegally solicited black prostitutes, had sex with them, impregnated them, opposed their being able to get abortions, and never supported any of his mulatto children by them. He never even acknowledged the children as his until he was on his deathbed, and about five minutes away from Eternity. I could go on...with ethics violation comparisons, financial mis-conduct comparisons, etc, but won't for now. I will save that for closer to Election Day. In every case, the most unethical Democrat is a saint compared to his / her Republican counterparts. Wake up, and take a Reality Pill.

      February 20, 2014 at 3:07 pm | Reply
    • Jay

      Hillary is far better than any / all GOP alternatives. There is no saint vs sinner in politics. NO good guy vs bad guy. There is only The Greater Evil vs The Lesser Evil. Wise people support The Lesser Evil. Better an unethical non-rapist like Hillary than an unethical rapist like Newt Gingrich. No matter how bad any Democrat is, the best Republican is far worse.

      As bad as Obama is, he never statutorily raped any children as Newt Gingrich did, and he did get affordable health care coverage for millions of people who could never get it before because of Pre-Existing Conditions. Obama also saved, and re-vitalized, the very same US auto industry that MittHead Romney wanted to let go extinct. He also killed Osama Bin Laden, and captured the head of the biggest, baddest, Mexican drug Cartel. There is no way that anyone in the GOP would have done ANY of that, let alone all of it.

      Democrats = a little bad, mixed with a lot of good, and very effective.

      GOP = a lot of bad, almost no good, and very ineffective....as per the Do Nothing Congress led by the GOP controlled House.

      History proves my points over, and over, to those who bother to look with an open mind.

      A vote for Hillary (or any Democrat) is a vote for: jobs, justice, civil rights, equality, education, infrastructure repair and maintenance, and common sense.

      A vote for any Republican is a vote for: stupidity, evil, injustice, a return to Jim Crow, increased poverty, further infrastructure decay, more war, fewer jobs, and a worse economy.

      February 26, 2014 at 10:55 pm | Reply
    • Jay

      No one ever has more, or worse, ethics violations, or tells bigger lies, than REPUBLICANS.

      "Iraq is pointing WMD at us!"

      That GOP lie killed thousands...for nothing but Bush family pride, and revenge.

      How about Chris Christie's ethics? Withholding disaster relief funds from towns whose Mayor does not support your political stooges' land scams...how 'ethical' is that?

      Hillary could be "Mrs. Satan"...and she would STILL be 'The Lesser Of Evils' whom any sane person would prefer to be President over any Republican.

      March 9, 2014 at 12:28 am | Reply
  3. Jay

    Republicans are too sex mad.They resent anyone getting more, or better-let alone more and better-sex than they get. This is why they worry so about things like college girls buying condoms, and why they believe in things like "legitimate rape". They also fail to understand that most people feel differently than they do.

    CLUE: The Monica Mess made Bill Clinton MORE popular...EVEN with Women. Every man wanted to BE Bill Clinton...getting a bit of cute, younger, orally fixated, fluff on the side. Every woman wanted to be WITH Bill Clinton, sexually...getting satisfying sex from, and sexual bragging rights about, The Most Powerful Man On Earth. Have you ever read The National Enquirer? Do you have any idea why people buy it, and read it? have you ever watched any soap opera, and wondered why viewers like them?

    Americans-particularly American WOMEN-LOVE sex scandals, and the Bad Boys who get caught up in them...as long as the Bad Boy is somewhat respectable. Bill Clinton gave every woman hope that she could live out her own Days Of Our Lives script with a rich, powerful man...regardless of her size, weight, etc. Rather that lay super models, and movie stars, Bill Clinton chose as a lover a somewhat plain, ordinary sort of 'every-woman' who was FAT. Women of all sizes loved him for it. Mentioning The Monica Mess just re-ignites the love American Women feel for Bill Clinton, because it again reminds them all that-if they are lucky-they may be his next lover. This attempt to smear Hillary with the Monica Mess will backfire. It will not shame her into not running. It will c ause her to decide to run.It will also get her much sympathy.

    February 19, 2014 at 1:31 pm | Reply
  4. mickey doyle

    put your daughter`s face on Monica Lewinsky`s body giving oral sex to bill Clinton.i don`t know about the rest of the population but this would turn my wife into a Lorraine Bobbitt.but we have morals this family doesn`t

    February 19, 2014 at 8:55 am | Reply
    • Jay

      My family realizes that a 24 year old is an adult, who can do as she pleases, and her morals are her business. If you fantasize about your daughter giving BJs to anyone, you are a pervert with no morals.

      February 19, 2014 at 1:19 pm | Reply
  5. Jay

    Get a clue, clowns. Hillary was THE VICTIM in The Monica Mess. She is SUPPOSED TO DISLIKE Monica, and those who wanted to publicize her private hurt. Attacking HILLARY over The Monica Mess will just make women support Hillary more than ever. Remember how women supported BILL Clinton, even as he was being grilled by the GOP over Monica?

    BTW – While Democrat Bill Clinton was having an affair with a consenting adult woman, Republican Newt Gingrich was statutorily raping an underaged girl, while his wife lay dying.

    If holding Hubby Bill Clintons. sexual offenses against innocent victim Hillary is OK, then it must also be OK to hold Daddy Ron Paul's decades of racist hate speech in published newsletters, and conviction for counterfeiting, against co-conspirator son Rand Paul...don't ya think?

    Attacking Hillary like this will s seriously backfire on the entire GOP. You clowns are STILL doing everything you can think of to DRIVE AWAY: women, blacks, hispanics, seniors, students, youth in general, labor, immigrants, and-in fact-EVERYone BUT the lunatic angry white rich racist woman hating homophobic gun nut males. That is too small a constituency to win national offices with. Kick The Tea Baggers to the curb, tell them to start their own REAL party (there is now NO actual Tea PARTY registered in ANY state, or territory of the nation), and free yourselves from their insanity...or pay the Election Day prices of having not done so.

    February 18, 2014 at 3:01 pm | Reply
  6. NATHAN WIMBERLY

    The Guns Over People tea potty are TERRIFIED of Hillary. Can't wait to see the GOBP stuff Jeb Bush down the tea potty's throats 2012 Mitt the twit style.

    February 17, 2014 at 2:56 pm | Reply
  7. Typical Republican Voter Profile

    1. Thnks they themselves are rich.
    2. Makes less than $100,000/yr.
    3. Has a net worth less than $200,000.
    4. Probably retired and depending on SS and Medicare or will be the person most likely to need SS and Medicare.
    5. Primary residence is on wheels or blocks.
    6. Thinks they are religious but they should read the book, "How NOT To Be A Republican" (a.k.a. The Bible).
    7. Benefits directly from the ACA but really, really hates Obamacare.
    8. Racist.
    9. Thinks republicans are conservatives.
    10. Actually thinks rebulicans represent THEM!!

    February 14, 2014 at 5:12 pm | Reply
    • Jim Rome

      This post has truth in it. I know several Hispanic families where all of the children are unwed mothers, unemployed, and the matriarch of the family is a high earning accountant holding the whole gang together, and insists they vote Republican to oppose their image as lice covered slouches. People vote against their type when they're embarrassed to admit they fall into that stereotype.

      February 18, 2014 at 11:09 pm | Reply
    • August

      You are so off base here. It's amazing how wrong you are. I hope you continue to believe this ....all thru the coming elections.

      February 26, 2014 at 8:50 pm | Reply
    • countingdown

      You wrote: "1. Thnks they themselves are rich."

      ** but know we don't have to have wealth to be rich in life!

      You wrote: "2. Makes less than $100,000/yr."

      ** so, why is it you want minimum wage! huh!

      You wrote: "3. Has anet worth less than $200,000."

      ** and proud of what we EARNED and tired of the (you owe me low lifes) wanting a share of what we EARNED!

      You wrote: "4. Probably retired and depending on SS and Medicare or will be the personmost likely to need SS and Medicare."

      ** anyone who works know that SS and Medicare is money they paid in and have a right to receive. I guess you don't work!

      You wrote: "5. Primary residence is on wheels or blocks."

      ** My wheels cost more than some houses and if your house is not on blocks or concrete, have it checked for termites. Also, we pay for your low income housing.

      You wrote: "6. Thinks they are religious but they should read the book, "How NOT To Be A Republican" (a.k.a. The Bible)."

      ** blasphemy, think you might receive some benefit from reading the Bible.

      You wrote: "7. Benefits directly from the ACA but really, really hates Obamacare."

      ** Ask the 6 plus million people who lost their insurance and PRAY your not next! Yes, we hate obamacare.

      You wrote: "8. Racist."

      ** You are filled with so much hate, I suggest you read the Bible as stated and get professional help!

      You wrote: "9. Thinks republicans are conservatives.

      **DUH!

      You wrote: "10. Actually thinks rebulicans represent THEM!!"

      ** Republicans and conservatives represent all people, including you!

      March 6, 2014 at 11:23 am | Reply
  8. jamesc

    85 ultra rich sociopaths own half of the weath of the world. 1/2 of the population lives in poverty, many with hunger, malnutrition and preventable disease. Maybe the real challenge of the 21st century is to replace obsolete unfair economic systems with new models that better serve people. Maybe that is the discussion we should be having.

    February 13, 2014 at 4:33 pm | Reply
    • Jim Rome

      It's called tax the wealthy like they always have been.

      February 18, 2014 at 11:10 pm | Reply
      • Jay

        When our economy was booming, in the 1950s, we had a 90% tax rate on the wealthy. Most never paid anywhere near that. The loopholes, credits, deductions, etc, let them lower it to about 40%. In the 1970s when things were not as good as in the 1950s, but not as bad as now, economically, we had a 70% tax rate on the rich. They managed to lower it with loopholes, etc, to about 25%. Now, the top tax rate is 38%, and the loopholes, etc, lower the taxes on the rich to between 0% and 15%. Since the poor pay nothing, and the middle class is becoming either rich, or poor, and so pays almost nothing, there is not enough revenue to keep the nation going...especially not with all the further tax cutting the GOP does. We need taxes to pay for: the military, weapons, government pensions, interstate road repair, national security, etc. If we had a flat 10% tax that everyone-rich, poor, middle class, corporations, charities, churches, etc-all paid, we would get by nicely. It is all the freeloaders-who are mostly rich billionaires, trillionaires, mega corporations, sports teams, churches, etc-paid their fair sure, we would have no economic problems.

        February 19, 2014 at 4:06 pm |
  9. Tea Partier

    Hillary Clinton (2008): “It’s 3 a.m. and your children are safe and asleep, but there’s a phone in the White House and it’s ringing. Something is happening in the world. Who do you want answering that phone?'

    Hillary Clinton (2013) after 4 Americans were murdered in Benghazi: "What difference does it make?"

    February 12, 2014 at 11:27 pm | Reply
    • jamesc

      Teapartiers never get their facts straight. You're quoting a few words from 5 hours of testimony and you not only missed the point, you are trying to sell the quote in an entirely different context. Try reality:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan-colmes/hillarys-what-difference_b_4675413.html

      Clinton: Well, first of all, Senator, I would say that once the assault happened, and once we got our people rescued and out, our most immediate concern was, number one, taking care of their injuries. As I said, I still have a DS [Diplomatic Security] agent at Walter Reed seriously injured - getting them into Frankfurt, Ramstein to get taken care of, the FBI going over immediately to start talking to them. We did not think it was appropriate for us to talk to them before the FBI conducted their interviews. And we did not - I think this is accurate, sir - I certainly did not know of any reports that contradicted the IC [Intelligence Community] talking points at the time that Ambassador Rice went on the TV shows. And you know I just want to say that people have accused Ambassador Rice and the administration of misleading Americans. I can say trying to be in the middle of this and understanding what was going on, nothing could be further from the truth. Was information developing? Was the situation fluid? Would we reach conclusions later that weren't reached initially? And I appreciate the –

      Johnson: But, Madame Secretary, do you disagree with me that a simple phone call to those evacuees to determine what happened wouldn't have ascertained immediately that there was no protest? That was a piece of information that could have been easily, easily obtained?

      Clinton: But, Senator, again–

      Johnson: Within hours, if not days?

      Clinton: Senator, you know, when you're in these positions, the last thing you want to do is interfere with any other process going on, number one–

      Johnson: I realize that's a good excuse.

      Clinton: Well, no, it's the fact. Number two, I would recommend highly you read both what the ARB said about it and the classified ARB because, even today, there are questions being raised. Now, we have no doubt they were terrorists, they were militants, they attacked us, they killed our people. But what was going on and why they were doing what they were doing is still unknown –

      Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that - an assault sprang out of that - and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn't know that.

      Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they'd they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we'll figure out what was going on in the meantime.

      February 13, 2014 at 4:52 pm | Reply
      • George

        So you totally ignore the fact that she was in charge, she made the decision not to reinforce the compound, not to get our people out of there, not to take responsibility, she is the one that is saying all of these things and we are the ones getting our facts wrong. Move back to your home planet. She said these things in full context of short version she still said them.

        February 16, 2014 at 7:09 am |
      • jamesc

        Well, I'm not going to analyze it for you, George. If you can't see a significant

        difference between what you call the "short version" and the "long version", it

        certainly explains your confusion. I think the main problem with Republicans is reading comprehension. For example, they read about physician counseling in the ACA and leap to the conclusion it must be a death panel - and even so they point out is is far to long for them to actually read. Go figure. Anyway, thanks for the advice, but I find the weather somewhat inclimate on Mars at apogee. Hope to return soon but I haven't completed my mission yet.

        February 16, 2014 at 9:22 pm |
  10. ProtectAmericanJobs

    Nowadays it's obviously not about being either lazy or uneducated as many try to profess, but about wages, expenses and regulations that are not even remotely close to the wages, expenses and regulations in our country.

    It doesn't help that since manufacturing has been declining for decades, that our children are being pushed towards liberal arts degrees rather than technical training which could have led to jobs, had we not been going down the ever increasing path of "Out-Sourcing".

    The American people will need good jobs with health-care benefits in order to be able to pay for the services of those educated doctors, lawyers, college professors, etc. – It can't all be chiefs and no Indians. There is an equally important place for both of them in America.

    February 12, 2014 at 11:30 am | Reply
    • ProtectAmericanJobs

      This was in reply to James comment below.

      February 12, 2014 at 11:40 am | Reply
  11. BigBil

    Ladies & Gentlemen kindly leave the past in the past. "Lewinsky-Gate" is just not relavent anymore. Hillary Clinton is running for President not Bill Clinton! This topic no longer has a place in public discussion simply because it is ancient history and has no bearing on moving America ahead in the world. Job creation and bringing industry and business back to the USA is what we need to focus on not petty partisan politics. The GOP needs to grow-up and GET OVER IT!!!! Having said that I will also state for the record that should Hillary choose to run in 2016 she will win in a landslide over any candidate the GOP nominates. This is because the GOP is still a bunch of children who don't play well with others and only care about their own party and could care less about our country and until this changes I, for one, cannot take the GOP seriously or consider the party that has created the biggest mess (See the recent Gov't shutdown and choose any "Bush Administration" in the history of the executive branch of the Federal Gov't) in Congressional History as a relevant political party. There may be a chance that somebody in New Jersey could "Bridge" the gap but I doubt it!

    February 11, 2014 at 10:57 pm | Reply
  12. oneSTARman

    The Confederate Zombies that have taken control of the GOP are So Far Out of Touch with 90% of America that they don't realize that Everything they think is a JAB at Clinton really is just making her look BETTER

    February 11, 2014 at 6:08 pm | Reply
  13. ProtectAmericanJobs

    The problem in trying to elect good leaders for The United States of America has nothing to do with the color or gender of our politicians. It's our politician's, from both parties, lack of honesty and the lack of willingness to do right by the US citizens that they're elected by and should be representing.

    Before Hillary Clinton runs for president, Americans need to remember that it was her "husband" that got us into bed with China in the first place. – How's that been working us?

    And what about that whole White-Water/Vince Foster deal?

    I don't trust the Clintons at all.

    The ONLY REAL FIX for our great country is to RAISE REVENUE, by Bringing Back Businesses and Jobs to TAX-PAYING AMERICAN CITIZENS.

    Unfortunately most of our politicians are a joke – Only it's not so funny, because over the past several decades, all they've been doing is screwing the American people, by stalling, spending, removing protections and allowing illegal aliens to continue to pour in and American jobs and industry to pour out, and all while collecting their American tax-payer funded pay checks, benefits and whatever else they get on the side from their various lobbyist friends.

    It seems to me that over the last 2-3 decades that both parties were always able to distract and polarize voters with insignificant peripheral social issues like gay marriage and abortion, which got most voters so caught up in the BS that they'd always lose sight of the bigger picture.

    We'd really all be better off by just cutting through the BS and all the my team vs your team name calling nonsense and really focus on America and improving the future of the American people.

    Once they're elected, our leaders should be working together for the good of the our country and our citizens by using combinations of the best ideas from both sides versus just trying to make the other side look bad so they lose the next election. – How's that been working?

    All the nonsense just allows the puppet-masters to continue to do what's best for them at the expense of the American people while we're polarized and distracted.

    But, let's face it – Neither party is actually running our country – Powerful puppet-masters play both sides to make sure that they get what they want. Unfortunately what they want is not usually in the best interest of the majority of the American people. (American citizens)

    Foreign Lobbyists here in the US promote sending US jobs to countries like China, where they work for slave wages, no benefits, no OSHA safety standards or no real environment regulations. It also doesn't help us compete when these company's factories are subsidized by China's communist government. Just check out the current Chinese extreme pollution issues – We all live in the same world, but not every country plays by the same rules.

    The so called "Global Market Place" is not a level playing field. Companies may have made higher profits by "out sourcing", but they've been putting middle class Americans who are a good part of the world's customer base out of work.

    The American people need American leaders who will start putting some sensible measures in place to stem the tide or this is going to continue to have a devastating effect on the United States of America and the American people.

    Aren't there at least a handful of these powerful puppet-masters that are fellow Americans with enough of a conscience, guts and loyalty to America and their fellow Americans to start trying to turn this trend around?

    If there aren't any, we're screwed.

    The bottom line is that "Our Government" has to protect domestic industry and the jobs that those industries provide. If they do that, the rest will take care of itself.

    Bringing manufacturing back to the US not only gives jobs to the US citizens who would be working in those manufacturing facilities, but to the people that would be working in the businesses that would spring up all around them. This should also include the safe harvesting, production and distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for fuel from countries where they hate us. Let's keep that money and those jobs here in the US.

    The lack of businesses and good jobs in the USA is what's really going to rob us, our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren of the potential of a prosperous or even decent future.

    It's all happened because, over the last 25-years, our government has allowed our country's industries to get sucked out to China, India, Mexico, etc and allowed illegal aliens and H-1B foreigners to come into our country and take away tax-paying Americans jobs and drive down domestic prices and wages.

    That's where our government leaders have to step up and put some sensible measures and incentives in place to keep jobs here in the USA or the real economy and infrastructure of the country we love will be destroyed along with the future of the American people.

    Nowadays it's obviously not about being either lazy or uneducated as many try to profess, but about wages, expenses and regulations that are not even remotely close to the wages, expenses and regulations in our country.

    Regardless of what the Free-Traitors keep trying to sell us, we can see what's real. The American People need to just trust their own instincts, common sense and what they've seen actually going on all around them versus all of the nonsense that the free-traitors are still trying to sell us.

    The ONLY REAL FIX for our great country is to RAISE REVENUE, by Bringing Back Businesses and Jobs to TAX-PAYING AMERICAN CITIZENS.

    The American People need Our Leaders to start remembering that they are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself.

    They are NOT elected by or to represent the Global Market Place, Lobbyist or Foreign citizens!

    February 11, 2014 at 4:45 pm | Reply
    • James

      Sir, I hear your fear but I don't totally agree with it. First, much of what has happened is due to the cable laid across the Pacific making the Asian markets and labor more available to the United States. The internet has made massive changes in the World and especially the United States. During the 90's I went to several seminars and groups on technology where we discussed these points. They showed where you could get labor in, say Peru to draft a house for $350 while in the US, the same plans were $2,500, meeting the same required building code. I have met many of those H-1B foreigners you talk about and they actually are helping to create jobs in the US.

      I feel we do have many problems that need to be addressed but we can't ignore the rest of the world. The first things are to change the tax code back to the way it was prior to the Republicans destroying it. We also need to reinstate many regulations that they have repealed. The US government needs to start repairing much of our nations infrastructure. This was take money from the taxes that they got rid of. To have a strong nation, we need a good infrastructure and the required regulations that go with it.

      I also believe, that we need to change the way we administer K12 education and higher education. The school district approach is not working because most administrations are sucking the money out to fund themselves and not the schools. If we change that, we should have money for the schools, teachers, programs (which should INCLUDE art, music, and sciences, in addition to free breakfast, and lunch). I also believe strongly that parents need to be told that education is NOT a right but a privilege for those children that come prepared to classes. If parents want to use the schools just for babysitting, our country cannot afford this service anymore. The parents can keep the kids at home. When a child goes home, the parents must insure that they are doing the required school work to make the education system work. The old adage, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink applies here. If a child goes to school but does not intend to learn, he/she needs to stay at home. I realize many will oppose this, but it is, in my view, important for our country to stay strong.

      February 11, 2014 at 10:54 pm | Reply
      • ProtectAmericanJobs

        The American People need Our Leaders to start remembering that they are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself.

        They are NOT elected by or to represent the Global Market Place, Lobbyist or Foreign citizens!

        Perot said it back in 1992 "Jobs getting sucked out of the country" – Many people saw it back then, but unfortunately too many people bought into the spin of "BS" that we were being sold. Seems that both parties were always able to distract and polarize voters with insignificant peripheral issues like gay marriage and abortion, which got most voters so caught up in the BS that they lost sight of the bigger picture.

        YouTube – Giant Sucking Sound – Ross Perot 1992 Presidential Debate(dot)flv

        This was something that most of us already knew back at that time, because it was just common sense!

        The people with all of the excuses as to why we can't, shouldn't or aren't willing to manufacture products here in the US are the same people who have provided us with the thinking that's gotten us into this mess in the first place.

        Check out these articles:

        economyincrisis(dot)org(slash)content(slash)protectionism-matter-self-survival#comment-6632

        economyincrisis(dot)org(slash)content(slash)unethical-predatory-practices

        Too bad we'll never see these types of articles in the mainstream media.

        It's appears that the foreign interests are influencing our media as well, just watch the ABC Nightline special on Apple's iPhone and iPad products being made in China that ends with the dramatic biased comment "That you can be the nation that lines up to make these products or the nation the lines up to buy them, but it's impossible to be both". What BS propaganda! ABC has direct ties to Apple and Foxconn. It also doesn't help us compete when these company's factories are subsidized by China's communist government.

        Even "60 Minutes" got into the act with their BS show about US manufacturing companies not being able to find enough qualified help. It doesn't help that since manufacturing has been declining for decades, that our children are being pushed towards liberal arts degrees rather than technical training which could have led to jobs, had we not been going down the ever increasing path of "Out-Sourcing".

        February 12, 2014 at 10:40 am |
      • ProtectAmericanJobs

        On the US Department of Commerce's US Census Bureau website there's a graphic showing how our trade imbalance has gotten progressively worse over the entire period from 1989 to the present and how it's really accelerated at an increasingly greater rate each year since 1999.

        We can thank "our leaders" from both sides and the WTO for that.

        See for yourself: www(dot)census(dot)gov(slash)foreign-trade(slash)balance(slash)c0004(dot)html

        Check it out and figure it out for yourself.

        If these "free trade" agreements were so good us, why did our trade deficit keep getting larger and larger during this span of time.

        Increasingly way more money going out of our country every year versus coming in every year.

        It's not rocket science.

        While our politicians have been bickering for years like idiotic fools, China has been crushing the USA in an economic war that we don't even know we're in and without even firing a shot.

        Bringing manufacturing back home to the USA is going to end up being not only a key to restoring our economy, but to maintaining our national security as well.

        * Chinese firms and state agencies have been implicated in a host of hacking attacks, on targets ranging from leading industrial and technology firms, to the Pentagon and other US government agencies, to the New York Times, Coca-Cola and numerous other companies and industries.

        * Oct 2012: The U.S. House of Representatives Intelligence Committee said U.S. telecommunications operators should not be allowed do business with China's top network equipment makers because potential Chinese state influence on the companies poses a security threat.

        * Also most counterfeit goods are produced and manufactured in China, making it the counterfeit capital of the world. In fact, the counterfeiting industry accounts for 8% of China's GDP.

        * Foreign Lobbyists here in the US promote sending US jobs to countries like China, where they work for slave wages, no benefits, no OSHA safety standards or no real environment regulations. It also doesn't help us compete when these company's factories are subsidized by China's communist government. Just check out the current Chinese extreme pollution issues – We all live in the same world, but not every country plays by the same rules.

        February 12, 2014 at 10:42 am |
      • ProtectAmericanJobs

        We need to bring manufacturing back to the United States of America and both parties are ignoring tariffs as a way to level the playing field, raise money and bring jobs back home. Let's guess why. Oh that's right, tariff is a dirty word. Hum, maybe it's that our so called leaders (political leaders) are beholden to the same people who are exporting our jobs.

        I guess we should keep letting Corp Boards, Wall Street, CEOs and Foreign Lobbyists promote sending US jobs to countries where they work for slave wages, no benefits, no OSHA safety standards or no real environment regulations.

        Foreign Lobbyists here in the US promote sending US jobs to countries like China, where they work for slave wages, no benefits, no OSHA safety standards or no real environment regulations. It also doesn't help us compete when these company's factories are subsidized by China's communist government. Just check out the current Chinese extreme pollution issues – We all live in the same world, but not every country plays by the same rules.

        The so called "Global Market Place" is not a level playing field. Companies may have made higher profits by "out sourcing", but they've been putting middle class Americans who are a good part of the world's customer base out of work.

        That's where our government leaders have to step up and put some sensible measures and incentives in place to keep jobs here in the USA or the real economy and infrastructure of the country we love will be destroyed along with the future of the American people.

        * Tariffs don't work, if we don't use them. We could have proportionally decreased and monitored them rather than just eliminating them altogether, which just allowed the floodgates to pop wide open.

        * Humm – Let me guess – Oh, here comes the Old Tariffs = Socialism / Trade war BS – * Sorry, they're right removing them has worked out so well for the American People and the Real American Economy. *

        The cold, hard truth is that the unholy alliance between Washington and Wall Street has sold out the American worker and exported our standard of living.

        Driven by the insatiable greed of Wall Street profiteers and accelerated by the false promise of free trade, our manufacturing base has been chased out of this country and along with it the livelihood of millions of hard-working Americans.

        * It used to be fashionable among politicians, pundits and so-called experts to claim that free trade is actually good for us. They say it enables us to buy cheaper goods made with cheap foreign labor and this, in turn, raises our standard of living. (But, if most Americans lose their jobs or are reduced to jobs with much lower pay and little or no benefits, it really doesn't make any sense.)

        * The free traitors need to ask themselves a more fundamental question: How will Americans buy those goods when they don't even have a paycheck that covers their mortgage, much less the college tuition for their children, etc....................?

        Foreigners will be coming here and buying our houses after we all foreclose. They'll also be taking over our government too, after it defaults from lack income tax revenue, due to businesses in the USA shutting down and or US jobs being outsourced and everyone being out of work.

        We need to bring back Glass-Steagall and start standing up to the WTO.

        If Ross Perot had been elected president in 1992, the American people and the American economy would have been much better off today!

        Our leaders need to start remembering that they are elected by the Citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself. – They are NOT elected by or to represent the Global Market Place, Lobbyist or Foreign citizens!

        The bottom line is that "Our Government" has to protect domestic industry and the jobs that those industries provide. If they do that, the rest will take care of itself.

        We need to add tariffs that are proportionate to the inequities in wages and regulations in the country where the goods were produced and or where we're importing them from. We could then use the money raised by these tariffs to help companies build state of the art manufacturing plants here in the USA, which would create more jobs here at home for US citizens, which would then in turn increase our income tax revenue.

        The people with all of the excuses as to why we can't, shouldn't or aren't willing to manufacture products here in the US are the same people who have provided us with the very same shortsighted thinking that's gotten us into this mess in the first place.

        Over the past 15-20 years, I've seen too many of our customer's close manufacturing plants here in the USA and move those plants to different countries, decimating entire areas here in OUR COUNTRY. And I'm not alone. Returning jobs to American Citizens will provide income tax revenue to OUR Government versus our government having to pay unemployment benefits to those who would be jobless instead.

        Bringing manufacturing back to the US not only gives jobs to the US citizens who would be working in those manufacturing facilities, but to the people that would be working in the businesses that would spring up all around them. This should also include the safe harvesting, production and distribution of our own natural energy here in the USA, rather than paying for fuel from countries where they hate us. Let's keep that money and those jobs here in the US.

        And for those that will say that many jobs are being replaced by robotics and automation, you still need people to maintain and service the automated equipment, warehouse personnel, truck drivers to deliver the products, purchasing people to buy the materials, managers, office staff, etc.

        Also, let's manufacture the automated equipment and develop the software to be used for this automated manufacturing, etc. This not only gives jobs to the US citizens who would be working in those manufacturing facilities, but to the people that would be working in the businesses that would spring up all around them.

        Many American jobs have been replaced by automation, but many more have been replaced by "out-sourcing", H-1B workers and non-income-tax-paying illegal aliens here in the USA.

        The ONLY REAL FIX for Our Country is to Raise Revenue by Bringing Back Businesses and Jobs to Tax-Paying American Citizens.

        Returning private sector jobs to American Citizens will provide income tax revenue to OUR Government versus our government having to pay unemployment benefits to those who would be jobless instead. We need our elected officials to Start Protecting American Jobs and do whatever it takes to bring back the jobs they let go. We need leaders who will actually stand up for the American people.

        The bottom line is that "Our Government" has to protect domestic industry and the jobs that those industries provide. If they do that, the rest will take care of itself.

        February 12, 2014 at 10:42 am |
      • ProtectAmericanJobs

        It's obvious that over the last 2-3 decades that both parties have been selling out the bulk of the American citizens, who they're supposed to represent, by allowing the incursion of illegal aliens (cheap labor) and the "out-sourcing" floodgates to open wider and wider without taking any sensible measures to stem the tide.

        The outsourcing is not just limited to unskilled and skilled blue-collar manufacturing jobs either. It's also impacting white-collar jobs like, plant managers, engineers, IT jobs, purchasing, customer service, etc........... being outsourced to India, China................. When will it stop?

        Just the other day a friend that works in the IT department of a major paint company found out that 90% of their IT department in the USA is being laid off and will be replaced by IT techs in India. He has until February and he's gone, but not until he helps train and transition the job to those that are replacing him.

        This summer I learned from a highly educated engineer that their company had recently displaced 100 of their 105 engineers here in the USA by replacing them with engineers in India. He was fortunate enough to be one of the 5 out 105 American engineers that they kept.

        Nowadays it's obviously not about being either lazy or uneducated as many try to profess, but about wages, expenses and regulations that are not even remotely close to the wages, expenses and regulations in our country.

        Foreigners will be coming here and buying our houses after we all foreclose. They'll also be taking over our government too, after it defaults from lack income tax revenue, due to businesses in the USA shutting down and or US jobs being outsourced and everyone being out of work.

        Our leaders better wake up and put some sensible measures in to stem the tide or this is going to have a devastating effect on America and the American citizens.

        This is eventually going to effect even the few idiotic Americans who are still championing outsourcing.

        February 12, 2014 at 10:44 am |
  14. NATHAN WIMBERLY

    Desperation. This proves that the Guns Over People tea potty are TERRIFIED of Hillary.

    February 11, 2014 at 2:34 pm | Reply
    • benjack

      No Nate, not scared of Hillary but after Obama this nation does not need a Soros/Media Matter/Move.on backed progressive in the white house. It may be the last straw and the end of the greatest nation on the planet.

      February 11, 2014 at 5:58 pm | Reply
      • James

        I don't believe a Republican will ever win the white house again, at least, not for several decades. They do not care about the United States. They lie about the facts. Our economy is in the condition it is in due in large part to the 2 UNFUNDED Republican wars, (yes, many Dems also voted for them but based on lies from Cheney and Bush), and the billions to billionaires tax give away. The tax give away took the small surplus from the Clinton administration and gave it plus more to the billionaires. When the Revenues (mainly from taxes) is much less than the expenditures then you have a massive deficit. That is the only thing that makes up this stupid Republican "sequester".

        A couple of additional side notes: Did you know that Halaburton and the Carlyle Group got rich off the wars? Haven't heard about the Carlylye Group? Well it was made up of the Bushes, Cheney, Baker, and um, oh yeah, the Bin Ladens! Yeah, the same family whose son blew up the towers! And the Bush Administration never wanted to catch him. Makes you think!

        During the Clinton administration when the Republicans had control of Congress, David Koch pushed the Republicans for the repeal of the Glass-Stegall Act. (This act was passed after the start of the first Republican depression (Hoover was a Republican. They passed it because they found that a major reason for that depression was that the banks took depositor money and speculated with it on the stock market.) During the Bush administration, the banks found they could make a lot of money bundling up loans and selling them on the market. They didn't care much about the back up of the loans because they were going to sell them off, so people started saying they made large amounts so they could buy homes ie “Liar Loans“. The banks set up very low starting rates for ARMS (some at 1% interest) but they went up quickly to 12% or more. They had to hide them from the bank auditors or else they would not pass their audit, so they quickly transferred them, bundled them and sold them on the market. Well at the higher interest rate, the people with the loans couldn't afford them and the house of cards collapsed. What made it worse is the bundled loans changed hands so often that no one knew who carried the paper so it was a bigger sub-prime mess.

        Progressives (BTW, the term came from a Republican president, when it was a good party. He was called President Teddy Roosevelt. I would much rather trust a progressive that wants the right amount of regulations than someone that only wants a way to become rich off of me.

        February 11, 2014 at 10:26 pm |
  15. NATHAN WIMBERLY

    The desperate Guns Over People tea potty caved in on the debt ceiling today. HILARIOUS watching them walk the plank toward November.

    February 11, 2014 at 2:27 pm | Reply
  16. Denise

    Psssstt....Hey GOP Clinton was impeached, yet two of your cheaters has to resign in disgrace. Karma anyone? Keep playing the Clinton cards fools!

    February 11, 2014 at 1:27 pm | Reply
  17. Denise

    Where is Dan Burton the watermelon man when you need him? He needs to get to the bottom of the Clinton years. Just when you thought the GOP and tea party crowd couldn't get even more ridiculous, just wait.....

    February 11, 2014 at 1:26 pm | Reply
  18. southerngent

    Had Hillary not stood by Bill, both of them would have lost, Bill, the presidency and Hillary future aspirations in politics.
    Its called self preservation.

    What is sad, is the liberal defense of president clinton. He disrespected the Office of the President of the United States of America, and used his position of power (the highest in our nation) to abuse a young woman

    Sad, just sad!

    February 11, 2014 at 12:24 pm | Reply
    • steve

      He had consensual sex with another adult behind his wifes back. He did nothing illegal or criminal. Oh well Ken Starr took home 40 million.

      February 11, 2014 at 2:09 pm | Reply
    • O'drama ya Mama

      Why are you making Monica a victim? Is it at all possible that she sent mixed signals? Is it possible that maybe she came on to him? Why does the women have to be the victim?

      February 11, 2014 at 2:41 pm | Reply
    • southerngent

      It must be noted that the reference to abuse of a young woman on my part is an opinion only!

      February 11, 2014 at 3:11 pm | Reply
  19. JJ

    If you can’t say anything good about someone, you must be talking about Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton will never be President. She is one of the most hated and despised women in the country. Her hate factor is one rung below that of Nancy Pelosi. She is incompetent, has blood on her hands from the Benghazi murders of four Americans, committed perjury during the Benghazi hearings, as SOS fostered the expansion of Al Qaeda in Egypt, Libya and No. Africa and supported Morsi, the deposed head and terrorist of Egypt. She is still married to scumbag and sleazeball Bill Clinton who was guilty of adultery, perjury, impeachment and disbarment. If she is so popular, she would have won the Democratic nomination in 2008 against Obama.

    February 11, 2014 at 12:23 pm | Reply
    • jkoppel

      Get ready to eat those words...because, without regard to your hateful rhetoric, they are among the most accomplished couple in history.

      I don't want you to think like me...I just want you to think.

      Ken Starr spent 6 months and US$600M and found a stain on a dress.

      Money well spent...?

      February 11, 2014 at 1:04 pm | Reply
      • HereIsAQuestionForYou

        Why did Scooter Libby go to jail for lying under oath, but Bill Clinton didn't?

        Double standards much there jkoppel?

        February 11, 2014 at 2:19 pm |
      • southerngent

        You do know he admitted everything! You do know he lied about all involvement. You do know he was impeached, by a slap on the wrist!

        Your statement " I don't want you to think like me...I just want you to think.", is applicable to you!

        You wrote " because, without regard to your hateful rhetoric, they are among the most accomplished couple in history.". Thanks to liberals like you!

        You wrote" Get ready to eat those words...".

        Better start making your excuses! There is no doubt IF she runs she would be the democratic nominee. Wouldn't be a wise choice for liberals.

        February 11, 2014 at 2:42 pm |
    • HistoryGeek

      You claim Hillary is hated and despised .... yet she's leading in the polls against every single Republican out there.

      February 11, 2014 at 9:23 pm | Reply
    • Bea

      Hated? Hillary is the most admired woman in the country and has been so since her days in the WH. She's also far ahead any Republican potential candidate in every single poll. The only ones who hate her are Right wingers with an agenda. Since they never would vote for her, who cares what they think of her?

      February 12, 2014 at 10:06 pm | Reply
  20. emskadittle

    i guess this one crossfire that newt really needed to sit out

    February 11, 2014 at 11:13 am | Reply
    • southerngent

      Newt resigned, why didn't Clinton?

      February 11, 2014 at 2:50 pm | Reply
  21. Tom

    Husband cheats on faithful wife ; GOP tries to embarrass wife for political gain.
    Thats how you win the womens vote !
    I think many republicans are still glowing from the Bill Clinton Mess like they actually did something to improve the country.
    Lets face it – the Repubs dont have many shining moments in the last 20 years to rally around.

    February 11, 2014 at 10:43 am | Reply
    • southerngent

      And it is OK with you that the President of the United States of America abused his position of power. Sad!

      February 11, 2014 at 2:58 pm | Reply
    • Barbara

      Thank you. Well said. The GOP will better serve their party members by focusing on finding a viable candidate to run against Mrs. Clinton rather than dredging up a painful event in her personal life. No woman wants to have her nose rubbed into her man's extramarital affairs, especially by mean-spirited Republicans. Obviously, the GOP lacks sensitivity for and credibility with women after this kind of attack and tactic. Disgusting.

      February 11, 2014 at 9:21 pm | Reply
      • southerngent

        Please comment on this!
        What do you think would happen to Monica if she had said to bill this is not right I don't want to do this any more?
        Now close your eyes and picture yourself as Monica if she were told, I am the president you will keep your mouth shut or you could disappear!

        This is in my opinion as much a crime as a priest, school teacher, college professor or anyone else who has authority over another person taking advantage of their position.

        America is losing it moral direction thanks to fools like you and the liberal left!

        Hillary was the First Lady of the United States of America? It is sad that if as your name indicates, that you are female and don't see anything wrong with him or her. If she had not stood up with bill they both would lose. He the Presidency and she her future political aspirations. It worked, because of liberals like you. Its also sad that you would support her in her run for the presidency. What is even more sad is the assault on American freedom by this administration and liberals like you continue to support Obama and the democrats. Be very careful what you wish for you just might get it! (Loss of all freedom)

        March 5, 2014 at 6:27 pm |
      • Jay

        Monicas was a fully grown woman, capable of making her own decisions and she made them. UNLIKE the victims of Newt Gingrich, Monica was NOT an under aged girl who was statutorily raped. What happened in the Monica mess was legal, and long ago, and none of those involved-Bill, Monica, or Hillary-is complaining now...so no one else has any right to complain now. Imagine being a 24 year old adult, and having sex with a consenting adult of your choosing, and having some phony twerp then call you a child, and suggest that you were molested, when yo were not. The Monica Mess will not hurt Hillary, and will not help the GOP. Feel free to learn this the hard way, if you wish.

        March 9, 2014 at 12:15 am |
  22. ACPD

    Rand Paul is such a sexist, he doesn't even begin to realize how badly off he is. The story about the diaries that a dead friend left behind in which SHE wrote HER impressions and thoughts is NOthing to do with Hillary Clinton. Paul is like the little dog who can only see ankles and thinks the world is made of feet. He is bicycle-seat sniffing, like so many sexist men and co-dependent women in the GOP. They can't deal with HRC's accomplishments and can't debate her on the complex and important issues SHE has dealt with, so they sniff around looking for something they understand–scandal to talk about. This is a reflection on conservative, GOP's and especially sexists in our society. It is nothing to do about HRC....

    February 11, 2014 at 9:13 am | Reply
  23. gl remote

    Several witnesses who were at Fort Marcy Park reported that Mr. Foster's car was not in the Fort Marcy lot when Mr. Foster was already dead. Others, when showed the photographs of Mr. Foster's body at the park, reported that the crime scene had been tampered with.

    February 11, 2014 at 9:05 am | Reply

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